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2015 NIT
Mar 16, 2015 13:43:01 GMT -6
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Post by shooting the J on Mar 16, 2015 13:43:01 GMT -6
I don't know enough about any of the teams in GB's bracket to say they can win a game, two or three. Like others though I do appreciate that there is an open path for somebody to go to New York from this bracket without having to play at a high major team in their gym. Illinois State finished 6-4 in their last 10 games. That could be misleading as they did win 6 in a row and upset Wichita State in that stretch. So are they due to cool off? Are they over confident vs. GB? Is GB going to be shake off last weeks disappointment? I think a win will be harder to come by than the casual observer for either team would think. Reggie Lynch is a big body but didn't have much range when I saw him against DePaul this season. He did have a great game when I did see him play. A tough matchup for sure but hard to know if he will slaughter GB especially since he has been foul plagued coming down the stretch. As a freshman he averaged 8.3 points and 4.8 boards in 20 minutes on 58% shooting. In his second year he averaged 9.4 and 5.4 in 22 minutes on 51% shooting. I wonder what GB fans would say if we had a 6'10" big body who showed that kind of statistical "improvement" year over year? I'm not sure what you're getting at, but I hope you are not implying that Reggie Lynch is comparable to Ken Lowe. We really have no answer for Lynch and if Henry is back, I hope we match the two up as a sort of experiment. I have no expectations for this team. Honestly I'm bracing for a Belmont repeat from last year which will be so hard to watch. Your bracing for Sykes to miss the game with injury? That seems illogical, as I was unaware he was injured, and last year's Belmont game was the only game he ever missed with injury.
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Post by knightlyfe920 on Mar 16, 2015 13:51:54 GMT -6
I'm not sure what you're getting at, but I hope you are not implying that Reggie Lynch is comparable to Ken Lowe. We really have no answer for Lynch and if Henry is back, I hope we match the two up as a sort of experiment. I have no expectations for this team. Honestly I'm bracing for a Belmont repeat from last year which will be so hard to watch. Your bracing for Sykes to miss the game with injury? That seems illogical, as I was unaware he was injured, and last year's Belmont game was the only game he ever missed with injury. What exactly are YOU expecting? What I foresee is Sykes getting doubled just like each and every game this year and mostly being taken out of the picture. I see getting demolished on the glass and I see resorting to jumpshots early and often. I see us getting beaten by double digits. This has nothing to do with a Sykes injury. It has everything to do with us not being able to win clutch games and make shots. Last years game was excruciating to watch and judging by the looks of it there is no reason to expect anything better than a flat performance.
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Post by shooting the J on Mar 16, 2015 14:00:17 GMT -6
Your bracing for Sykes to miss the game with injury? That seems illogical, as I was unaware he was injured, and last year's Belmont game was the only game he ever missed with injury. What exactly are YOU expecting? What I foresee is Sykes getting doubled just like each and every game this year and mostly being taken out of the picture. I see getting demolished on the glass and I see resorting to jumpshots early and often. I see us getting beaten by double digits. This has nothing to do with a Sykes injury. It has everything to do with us not being able to win clutch games and make shots. Last years game was excruciating to watch and judging by the looks of it there is no reason to expect anything better than a flat performance. Do you realize Sykes didn't play versus Belmont last year due to injury? I'd say the team didn't look flat versus Virginia last year, versus Miami on the road this year, versus Valpo last year with the conference title on the line, or versus FGCU in the Gulf Coast Classic Championship. The team needs to win 1 more big game a year, but your being disingenuous by saying they always fail in big games. They've been outstanding when winning some of the biggest games in program history the last few years.
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Post by knightlyfe920 on Mar 16, 2015 14:01:51 GMT -6
What exactly are YOU expecting? What I foresee is Sykes getting doubled just like each and every game this year and mostly being taken out of the picture. I see getting demolished on the glass and I see resorting to jumpshots early and often. I see us getting beaten by double digits. This has nothing to do with a Sykes injury. It has everything to do with us not being able to win clutch games and make shots. Last years game was excruciating to watch and judging by the looks of it there is no reason to expect anything better than a flat performance. Do you realize Sykes didn't play versus Belmont last year due to injury? I'd say the team didn't look flat versus Virginia last year, versus Miami on the road this year, versus Valpo last year with the conference title on the line, or versus FGCU in the Gulf Coast Classic Championship. The team needs to win 1 more big game a year, but your being disingenuous by saying they always fail in big games. They've been outstanding when winning some of the biggest games in program history the last few years. Sure, they find ways to win regular season games, but when they know there's a whole season ahead of them as a safety net that takes some of the pressure off. Sykes is going to go out there and overexhaust himself because he wants to make one last impression for scouts.
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Post by shooting the J on Mar 16, 2015 14:12:14 GMT -6
Do you realize Sykes didn't play versus Belmont last year due to injury? I'd say the team didn't look flat versus Virginia last year, versus Miami on the road this year, versus Valpo last year with the conference title on the line, or versus FGCU in the Gulf Coast Classic Championship. The team needs to win 1 more big game a year, but your being disingenuous by saying they always fail in big games. They've been outstanding when winning some of the biggest games in program history the last few years. Sure, they find ways to win regular season games, but when they know there's a whole season ahead of them as a safety net that takes some of the pressure off. Sykes is going to go out there and overexhaust himself because he wants to make one last impression for scouts. The danger of grading a coach only by a few years of post-season play is that it's too small of a sample size. Duke has been upset multiple times in the big dance the last few years. By using that sample size, Coach K could by fired by a quick triggered AD. Despite the post-season results the last few years, most would agree that Coach K is one of the greatest of all time. I feel it's best to use the whole body of work to make judgements on an individual. Without a large enough sample size, luck and injury can greatly skew the results.
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Post by knightlyfe920 on Mar 16, 2015 14:13:08 GMT -6
Sure, they find ways to win regular season games, but when they know there's a whole season ahead of them as a safety net that takes some of the pressure off. Sykes is going to go out there and overexhaust himself because he wants to make one last impression for scouts. The danger of grading a coach only by a few years of post-season play is that it's too small of a sample size. Duke has been upset multiple times in the big dance the last few years. By using that sample size, Coach K could by fired by a quick triggered AD. Despite the post-season results the last few years, most would agree that Coach K is one of the greatest of all time. I feel it's best to use the whole body of work to make judgements on an individual. Without a large enough sample size, luck and injury can greatly skew the results. And your expectations for us are?
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Post by shooting the J on Mar 16, 2015 14:22:31 GMT -6
The danger of grading a coach only by a few years of post-season play is that it's too small of a sample size. Duke has been upset multiple times in the big dance the last few years. By using that sample size, Coach K could by fired by a quick triggered AD. Despite the post-season results the last few years, most would agree that Coach K is one of the greatest of all time. I feel it's best to use the whole body of work to make judgements on an individual. Without a large enough sample size, luck and injury can greatly skew the results. And your expectations for us are? I predict a extremely competitive defensive struggle. I feel Green Bay is slightly better but ISU was gifted the ever important home court advantage. The result would be more telling if this was a neutral court game. I'm looking forward to this game even though I was hoping for a big name high major, ISU is stronger competition.
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2015 NIT
Mar 16, 2015 14:29:55 GMT -6
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Post by knightlyfe920 on Mar 16, 2015 14:29:55 GMT -6
Final score prediction?
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Post by phoenixphan87 on Mar 16, 2015 16:00:06 GMT -6
I am not familiar with Illinois State besides just seeing them collapse against UNI in the valley final. They did beat Wichita to get there and sounded like the clear 3rd best team in that league. Would ease a bit of the pain to go on a little run. I agree that not having a power 5 conference in the quadrant could be big. Looking forward to watching the game on ESPNU on Wednesday.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Mar 16, 2015 20:50:32 GMT -6
Based on the numbers I can see these are two teams that look similar on paper. Both have lots of blocks, steals and rebounds. Neither have great offensive numbers but ISU does have better shooting percentages. This game is likely to be about who wants it more as their does not appear to be a statistical difference to point to.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Mar 16, 2015 20:56:29 GMT -6
I don't know enough about any of the teams in GB's bracket to say they can win a game, two or three. Like others though I do appreciate that there is an open path for somebody to go to New York from this bracket without having to play at a high major team in their gym. Illinois State finished 6-4 in their last 10 games. That could be misleading as they did win 6 in a row and upset Wichita State in that stretch. So are they due to cool off? Are they over confident vs. GB? Is GB going to be shake off last weeks disappointment? I think a win will be harder to come by than the casual observer for either team would think. Reggie Lynch is a big body but didn't have much range when I saw him against DePaul this season. He did have a great game when I did see him play. A tough matchup for sure but hard to know if he will slaughter GB especially since he has been foul plagued coming down the stretch. As a freshman he averaged 8.3 points and 4.8 boards in 20 minutes on 58% shooting. In his second year he averaged 9.4 and 5.4 in 22 minutes on 51% shooting. I wonder what GB fans would say if we had a 6'10" big body who showed that kind of statistical "improvement" year over year? I'm not sure what you're getting at, but I hope you are not implying that Reggie Lynch is comparable to Ken Lowe. We really have no answer for Lynch and if Henry is back, I hope we match the two up as a sort of experiment. I have no expectations for this team. Honestly I'm bracing for a Belmont repeat from last year which will be so hard to watch. That is my polite way of indicating you probably have watched 1 or 2 Reggie Lynch games all year and have no clue how good he is but because he is on another team you think he is going to crush GB. He very well may crush GB but if we had a promising big guy show no statistical improvement year one to year two you most likely would call him out for sucking and think we are going to lose because of him. What little I saw of Lynch he is better than Lowe. I just don't think a 6'10" getting 5 boards a game over the season is a reason to brace ourselves for a beat down. From what I can see their guards really rebound, that worries me.
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Post by knightlyfe920 on Mar 16, 2015 23:22:30 GMT -6
I'm not sure what you're getting at, but I hope you are not implying that Reggie Lynch is comparable to Ken Lowe. We really have no answer for Lynch and if Henry is back, I hope we match the two up as a sort of experiment. I have no expectations for this team. Honestly I'm bracing for a Belmont repeat from last year which will be so hard to watch. That is my polite way of indicating you probably have watched 1 or 2 Reggie Lynch games all year and have no clue how good he is but because he is on another team you think he is going to crush GB. He very well may crush GB but if we had a promising big guy show no statistical improvement year one to year two you most likely would call him out for sucking and think we are going to lose because of him. What little I saw of Lynch he is better than Lowe. I just don't think a 6'10" getting 5 boards a game over the season is a reason to brace ourselves for a beat down. From what I can see their guards really rebound, that worries me. What worries me about Lynch is that he is a complete center, something we don't have to compete with. We struggle against teams with good centers like Valpo (Fernandez) and Oakland (Petros). I don't see Lowe posting up Lynch and making anything happen in the paint.
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Post by Fanforever on Mar 17, 2015 10:28:06 GMT -6
I have never see Illinois St play but am going to predict a Phoenix win by 9 points. Call me a homer!! I agree the Phoenix struggled with Fernandez in the post with him altering their shots but not as much with Petros. They split with Oakland and controlled him in the second half of the game in Green Bay. Petros is not an athletic shot blocker and is more of a physical presence.
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Post by phoenixphan87 on Mar 17, 2015 13:33:07 GMT -6
Phoenix HC Brian Wardle: I know it sounds like people are really upset with what we've done. 5 years ago they would have been begging for it
Wardle: "If we think the NIT is a bad thing for Green Bay basketball it's the wrong mentality to have. It's extremely positive."
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Post by ramsfan920 on Mar 17, 2015 14:26:07 GMT -6
Phoenix HC Brian Wardle: I know it sounds like people are really upset with what we've done. 5 years ago they would have been begging for it Wardle: "If we think the NIT is a bad thing for Green Bay basketball it's the wrong mentality to have. It's extremely positive." Last year I was fine with an nit because of the circumstances and we had injuries to blame. This year we don't have an excuse. We dominanted that game for 30 minutes and completely collapsed with careless turnovers. The nit is not a positive thing this year. It's not acceptable. Before the year began skyes was quoted as saying it was not an ncaa or bust year for him this year. Maybe that was the problem all along. The players never had that mindset from day one and it cost them home court in the conference tourney and the bid as a result. Had they played at home this year I think it's safe to assume they would have won.
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