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Post by exithere on Apr 23, 2015 10:20:11 GMT -6
Sykes athletcism allowed him to play a lot bigger than he was. Riley doesn't even come close to sykes athletcism Just because he can't dunk doesn't mean he isn't a decent athlete. He can shoot, he can handle the ball and at least play some semblance of defense. In a system that Linc runs, what more could you ask for? Bigger more athletic guards will have more success than smaller average athletic guards. At 5'6 he might be one if the shortest players in D1. I think he is better suited as a walk on or to go to Div 2 or 3 route.
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Post by FSCMocFan on Apr 23, 2015 10:41:12 GMT -6
...imo there isn't that huge of a gap between low to mid majors in D1 and good D2 teams.
True dat. Main difference in good D2 teams is the size and number of the bigs. Last year FSC's "big" was 6'8" and the next man down was 6'5"/6'6" - both good starters, but the big was not a scorer.
A really good big in D2 is Dan Jansen at Augustana. He's 6'9"/240 and can do just about everything: play defense, rebound, bring the ball up, shoot the 3 and score under the basket. A real nice player: www.goaugie.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=3244&path=mbball
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Post by thetulsawarrior on Apr 23, 2015 10:43:25 GMT -6
I think the biggest difference is quickness between the various levels.
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Post by FSCMocFan on Apr 23, 2015 11:38:26 GMT -6
I think the biggest difference is quickness between the various levels.
I agree for the most part.
High D2 is about as fast as mid-major+ D1 and faster than low D1. In higher lever D1 there are more quick bigs than in high D2. There are very few players in high D2 over 6'9". The quick players over 6'9" are mostly in D1 - those left are too slow for upper D2 BB.
Upper level D2 is a fast game for the most part and FSC last year was faster that most. (Excellent defense, 5 games > 100 pts., the one loss was 102-107 to Barry who was ranked #11 at the time and lost both rematches.) What FSC wasn't was big - 6'8", 6'5" and down from there.
In the "Linc" game quickness is more important than size. Size is one of the adjustments he's going to have to make, hopefully not at the expense of speed.
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Post by basketballfan14 on Apr 23, 2015 15:51:16 GMT -6
Whoever mentioned the City Conference and good players are sorely mistaken. In the past the conference was amazing, but for years it has been declining. The coaches and players in the conference do not teach defense (positional defense), they just tell them to go out there and get buckets and take gambles on defense. Riley would be an okay walk on but you would have to be crazy to offer a 5'6 shooting guard a scholarship from a D1 school. Right because Keifer Sykes at 5'9'' couldn't play either... Not to mention he played in the decaying Chicago city league. Maybe it's a height thing, maybe it's an inner city thing that some of you don't like, I really don't know but what I do know is that this guy is worth a damn and he could certainly contribute at this level regardless of how tall he is or what conference he played in. Sykes could jump out of the gym which made him play bigger, plus he was ALOT stronger. Riley has no jump on his shot and it is a low release, and at 5'5 or 5'6, that is not a good thing.
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Post by FSCMocFan on Apr 23, 2015 16:46:37 GMT -6
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Post by knightlife920 on Apr 23, 2015 17:41:55 GMT -6
All the guy needs is a chance. I'm sure Wisconsin, Marquette and Iowa aren't looking at him just for the hell of it. You can talk size all you want but the bottom line is he can shoot, dribble and split the defense. He kind of reminds me of TJ Ford from the Bucks a decade ago.
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Post by FSCMocFan on Apr 23, 2015 17:43:54 GMT -6
In spite of what the article says Rick Pitino is the driving force behind Rowan's push to reclassify. I'd be very surprised if he did not end up at L'ville.
About the only significant power team not interested in Rowan is UK.
BTW: His father was a pro BB player (NBA for about 7 minutes, but years in Europe) and was an assistant coach on both of his HS teams (PA/FL). Both teams were state champions.
Rick Pitino is a bit of a sore topic around FSC these days. He lured away Linc's best recruit this winter - Ryan McMahon from Sarasota, FL - after Dick Vitale (from Sarasota) saw him play and talked him up late on. Pitino sold his father on L'ville. Before that McMahon was a lock for FSC. McMahon's a little small for major D1 would have been great in D2. If Linc had stayed around we might have had another shot at him after year 1 as a transfer. Prolly not at all now.
(This was a response to an original post that disappeared.)
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Post by FSCMocFan on Apr 23, 2015 18:02:52 GMT -6
Darrell Riley: www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=46791.msg706461;topicseen
I think the answer is somewhere down that thread. He needs to be looking at a good D2 school so he can get a scholarship which means he goes out-of-state unless he can get UW-Parkside interested in him. (Which there is no sign of.) No verbalcommits page is a bad sign. D2 is now in VC. Parkside, Drury, Lewis... maybe. There's a school for him, I just don't think it's mid-major+ D1.
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Post by FSCMocFan on Apr 24, 2015 0:02:52 GMT -6
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Post by exithere on Apr 24, 2015 7:25:00 GMT -6
@prepbullseye: Per a source close to the situation, UWGB had a great school visit w/ 6'3 2015 2G Joe Mooney this week. Will watch him Fri nite in Louisvle. From the little bit I watched on him seems like an average athlete who is a dead eye from 3. He reminds me of Cerroni but with the better ability to create his own shots.
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Post by knightlife920 on Apr 24, 2015 7:31:48 GMT -6
@prepbullseye: Per a source close to the situation, UWGB had a great school visit w/ 6'3 2015 2G Joe Mooney this week. Will watch him Fri nite in Louisvle. From the little bit I watched on him seems like an average athlete who is a dead eye from 3. He reminds me of Cerroni but with the better ability to create his own shots. Agreed, he might have struggles in this uptempo setting. I'd pass on him..
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Post by exithere on Apr 24, 2015 7:38:50 GMT -6
From the little bit I watched on him seems like an average athlete who is a dead eye from 3. He reminds me of Cerroni but with the better ability to create his own shots. Agreed, he might have struggles in this uptempo setting. I'd pass on him.. You'd pass on him but take Riley? Mooney would be an good addition with the penetrators we are currently recruiting. A deadeye shooter is something this team has needed for several years. Someone we can drive and kick too for the open 3.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Apr 24, 2015 8:14:39 GMT -6
Mooney type players typically don't excite me but I think one or two months ago the majority of fans wanted a guard who could reliably shoot 3 pointers. In the Darner style that seems important as 40% of their shots at Florida Southern last year were from deep. If that happens this year with the current returning roster they may not win a game.
Also, if UW, MU or Iowa are offering walkon spots than GB most likely has to offer a scholarship to Riley. Granted Iowa would be out of state tuition and MU would be private school tuition so that may factor in. However, UW would be in state and it would be similar to Aaron Moesch. Both schools offered preferred walk on and he obviously took the UW offer.
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Post by thetulsawarrior on Apr 24, 2015 8:34:40 GMT -6
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