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Post by carr34 on Apr 6, 2015 8:27:04 GMT -6
Grzesk needs to be the man, plain and simple. Like Panther said, its almost TOO obvious of a pick that some of us are just looking for any possible flaw. - He WINS ----> More conference tournament AND NCAA wins than Wardle. - He can recruit - He can develop - He's an alum with a passion for the university - He would (most likely) be here to stay - He knows the Xs and Os - He's not a bad guy (or so I hear) If the guy was from anywhere else with the same skill and attribute set I just mentioned he would be the overwhelming favorite amongst you guys. Just because he is from a D3 school and coaches in a mediocre conference should not disqualify him nor even serve as a reason to put him on the backburner. Barone is an even more timid Wardle and Diener is overglorified for coaching a powerhouse to a championship (and with no doubt far more resources than Grzesk). The choice is clear. Its really Grzesk or bust, anyone but him is simply the wrong decision. Knight, where are you getting that Diener coached a "powerhouse" with "no doubt more resources than Grzesk"? Stritch may now be a powerhouse but it has been built by Diener. He was literally laughed at when he told people his goal was to win a National Title. Prior to Diener there was no national success to speak of at Stritch. They had never won more than one game. As far as resources...their gym has 5 rows of bleachers on one side of the gym. It is the worst facility in the country. The rest of the country as well as the top schools in their conference are afforded 6 scholarships while Stritch has 2.5. I am not making this stuff up I promise. Despite these hurdles Diener has won conference every year, has won conference coach of the year 5/6 years and won one National championship and national coach of the year. Gary is a great guy that has done a fine job but you don't have to make things up in your efforts to champion his cause.
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Post by gbbrl97 on Apr 6, 2015 9:32:05 GMT -6
I was too quick on the NLI signing day.....It looks like it's not until 4/15 per the NLI website, but I just heard on CBS Sports radio that the NCAA may move up the beginning of the spring signing period to 4/10. Is this right? www.nationalletter.org/
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Post by PantherU on Apr 6, 2015 9:41:16 GMT -6
You can come clean Panther. You just want Diener available when Rob is finally shown the door. "Why should that mean he wouldn't be available when the Milwaukee job is open?" - Kris Kelderman Sent from my SCH-R970 using proboards
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Post by shooting the J on Apr 6, 2015 15:09:50 GMT -6
You can come clean Panther. You just want Diener available when Rob is finally shown the door. "Why should that mean he wouldn't be available when the Milwaukee job is open?" - Kris Kelderman Sent from my SCH-R970 using proboards Nothing speaks to Milwaukee's mismanagement more than when they overspent for a soccer coach (non-revenue sport) and then couldn't afford to fire their basketball coach after an APR ban and their 2nd sub-200 RPI finish in 3 years.
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Post by shaken8ball on Apr 6, 2015 15:16:43 GMT -6
"Why should that mean he wouldn't be available when the Milwaukee job is open?" - Kris Kelderman Sent from my SCH-R970 using proboards Nothing speaks to Milwaukee's mismanagement more than when they overspent for a soccer coach (non-revenue sport) and then couldn't afford to fire their basketball coach after an APR ban and their 2nd sub-200 RPI finish in 3 years.
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Post by shooting the J on Apr 6, 2015 15:18:22 GMT -6
Joe Wolf continue's to intrigue me. NBA coaches have had a ton of success moving down to the collegiate level. Joe also spent 2 years as a NBA-Development League head coach, leading his team to the Semi-finals and Finals. The low salary at GB wouldn't be a factor for Wolf, he's saved his NBA earnings. An Extremely knowledgeable coach who would also do well on the recruiting trail selling himself.
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Post by stillaphoenixphan on Apr 6, 2015 19:02:51 GMT -6
Joe Wolf continue's to intrigue me. NBA coaches have had a ton of success moving down to the collegiate level. Joe also spent 2 years as a NBA-Development League head coach, leading his team to the Semi-finals and Finals. The low salary at GB wouldn't be a factor for Wolf, he's saved his NBA earnings. An Extremely knowledgeable coach who would also do well on the recruiting trail selling himself. He is an intriguing pick and probably a dark horse in all of this. The other thing is he should be able to recruit some very good asst. coaches. NEW Also a Scott Venci article on possible hire this week. One very interesting note is some of the Asst. Coaches being considered currently make more $ than the Head Coach of UWGB makes? www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/sports/college/uwgb/2015/04/06/uwgb-hire-basketball-coach-week/25382531/
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Post by knightlife920 on Apr 6, 2015 22:31:18 GMT -6
Grzesk needs to be the man, plain and simple. Like Panther said, its almost TOO obvious of a pick that some of us are just looking for any possible flaw. - He WINS ----> More conference tournament AND NCAA wins than Wardle. - He can recruit - He can develop - He's an alum with a passion for the university - He would (most likely) be here to stay - He knows the Xs and Os - He's not a bad guy (or so I hear) If the guy was from anywhere else with the same skill and attribute set I just mentioned he would be the overwhelming favorite amongst you guys. Just because he is from a D3 school and coaches in a mediocre conference should not disqualify him nor even serve as a reason to put him on the backburner. Barone is an even more timid Wardle and Diener is overglorified for coaching a powerhouse to a championship (and with no doubt far more resources than Grzesk). The choice is clear. Its really Grzesk or bust, anyone but him is simply the wrong decision. Knight, where are you getting that Diener coached a "powerhouse" with "no doubt more resources than Grzesk"? Stritch may now be a powerhouse but it has been built by Diener. He was literally laughed at when he told people his goal was to win a National Title. Prior to Diener there was no national success to speak of at Stritch. They had never won more than one game. As far as resources...their gym has 5 rows of bleachers on one side of the gym. It is the worst facility in the country. The rest of the country as well as the top schools in their conference are afforded 6 scholarships while Stritch has 2.5. I am not making this stuff up I promise. Despite these hurdles Diener has won conference every year, has won conference coach of the year 5/6 years and won one National championship and national coach of the year. Gary is a great guy that has done a fine job but you don't have to make things up in your efforts to champion his cause. The amount of resources/advantages that Diener has over Grzesk is obnoxious. First of all, there are NO SCHOLARSHIPS in D3! He has to convince everyone that being part of the team is worth having a ridiculous amount of debt the rest of their lives. The "basketball arena" is a pathetic excuse for even a run down high school gymnasium, there is nothing convincing about setting foot in Schuldes. Yeah, De Pere is nice and quaint, but it can't compare to an actual suburban metropolitan area which no doubt offers students much more to do in their free time. Before Grzesk, the Knights had only a couple winning seasons in the past two decades or so and certainly were never relevant on the national stage whatsoever. You can talk up Diener all you want but the fact of the matter is that Grzesk has been tremendously successful with a ton less to work with.
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Post by carr34 on Apr 6, 2015 22:36:45 GMT -6
Knight, where are you getting that Diener coached a "powerhouse" with "no doubt more resources than Grzesk"? Stritch may now be a powerhouse but it has been built by Diener. He was literally laughed at when he told people his goal was to win a National Title. Prior to Diener there was no national success to speak of at Stritch. They had never won more than one game. As far as resources...their gym has 5 rows of bleachers on one side of the gym. It is the worst facility in the country. The rest of the country as well as the top schools in their conference are afforded 6 scholarships while Stritch has 2.5. I am not making this stuff up I promise. Despite these hurdles Diener has won conference every year, has won conference coach of the year 5/6 years and won one National championship and national coach of the year. Gary is a great guy that has done a fine job but you don't have to make things up in your efforts to champion his cause. The amount of resources/advantages that Diener has over Grzesk is obnoxious. First of all, there are NO SCHOLARSHIPS in D3! He has to convince everyone that being part of the team is worth having a ridiculous amount of debt the rest of their lives. The "basketball arena" is a pathetic excuse for even a run down high school gymnasium, there is nothing convincing about setting foot in Schuldes. Yeah, De Pere is nice and quaint, but it can't compare to an actual suburban metropolitan area which no doubt offers students much more to do in their free time. Before Grzesk, the Knights had only a couple winning seasons in the past two decades or so and certainly were never relevant on the national stage whatsoever. You can talk up Diener all you want but the fact of the matter is that Grzesk has been tremendously successful with a ton less to work with. You are so wrong it is kind of funny. I would bet you that Gary would say you are wrong. But we can agree to disagree.
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Post by knightlife920 on Apr 7, 2015 0:06:12 GMT -6
The amount of resources/advantages that Diener has over Grzesk is obnoxious. First of all, there are NO SCHOLARSHIPS in D3! He has to convince everyone that being part of the team is worth having a ridiculous amount of debt the rest of their lives. The "basketball arena" is a pathetic excuse for even a run down high school gymnasium, there is nothing convincing about setting foot in Schuldes. Yeah, De Pere is nice and quaint, but it can't compare to an actual suburban metropolitan area which no doubt offers students much more to do in their free time. Before Grzesk, the Knights had only a couple winning seasons in the past two decades or so and certainly were never relevant on the national stage whatsoever. You can talk up Diener all you want but the fact of the matter is that Grzesk has been tremendously successful with a ton less to work with. You are so wrong it is kind of funny. I would bet you that Gary would say you are wrong. But we can agree to disagree. Was anything I said in my last post inaccurate? I may have overexaggerated to say that Stritch has been a powerhouse for sometime, but its not a stretch to say Diener has much more to work with. I go to SNC, I knew people that were on the team at one point or another, so I at least have a better basic understanding of the obstacles in Grzesk's way. I'm no insider by any means but you'd have to both be blind and have absolutely no idea of how D3 athletics or college athletics in general work in order to say that the things I said about the Knights aren't true.
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Post by shooting the J on Apr 7, 2015 7:36:45 GMT -6
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Post by shaken8ball on Apr 7, 2015 16:59:32 GMT -6
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Post by basketballfan14 on Apr 8, 2015 13:21:28 GMT -6
I think there are multiple candidates that are better coaches with better resumes than Gary G. Linc Darner being one of them. Joe Wolf would be a slam dunk hire. I also think, Diener would be a successful hire (the person stating that Diener has more resources than Gary G is laughable). Gary G has the worst resume out of all the candidates. Pat Miller has more wins, NCAA wins, and ships.... as does Semling compared to Gary G. If nobody knew who Gary G was or had ties to GB, would he even be getting interviewed? I think it would be a horrible hire and a disgrace to other candidates to go with GG. 1) Diener 2) Darner 3) Barone 4) Wolf 5) Fife (if still interested) 6) Semling or Miller 7) Gary G.
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Post by knightlife920 on Apr 8, 2015 14:13:40 GMT -6
I think there are multiple candidates that are better coaches with better resumes than Gary G. Linc Darner being one of them. Joe Wolf would be a slam dunk hire. I also think, Diener would be a successful hire (the person stating that Diener has more resources than Gary G is laughable). Gary G has the worst resume out of all the candidates. Pat Miller has more wins, NCAA wins, and ships.... as does Semling compared to Gary G. If nobody knew who Gary G was or had ties to GB, would he even be getting interviewed? I think it would be a horrible hire and a disgrace to other candidates to go with GG. 1) Diener 2) Darner 3) Barone 4) Wolf 5) Fife (if still interested) 6) Semling or Miller 7) Gary G. Hey! I'm supposed to be the guy everyone hates on here! Seriously though, you must either be a troll or you simply have no clue about anything resembling basketball. Grzesk embarrassing? His track record speaks for itself: 5 tourney appearances in the last 8 years after the school had been there once in four decades prior, two UNDEFEATED runs through conference play in a row, A couple of tourney wins (due to the awful seed they get as they receive no love from the selection committee), recruited and produced All-Americans back to back years at a school that has played second fiddle to the major UW schools and not to mention he has exactly 0 scholarships to work with. Plus, Grzesk has had his sights on this job for a while and I could not imagine him leaving unless it was for a monster payday. You literally have no idea what he has done with the minuscule amount of "resources" he has. You my friend are a joke.
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Post by Fanforever on Apr 8, 2015 14:55:26 GMT -6
At this point i am tired of speculating on our next coach and want to find out who it is. I know KB took forever in naming BW but i anticipated knowing by now.
Has anyone heard any rumors on who the clubhouse leader is? There really are a lot of good candidates to choose from and am excited for whoever gets the job, whether it be GG, BB, JW or Diener. It does not matter they all have positive attributes that could take our program to the next level.
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