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Post by shooting the J on Apr 1, 2015 19:19:31 GMT -6
I know the Bennett's are pushing for Grzesk and they should be respected for a long list of reasons. That said Dick did supported Soderberg and Heideman as well. Loyalty is a good thing but a decision on a new coach for Green Bay has to be based on more than a past relationship and loyalty to that relationship. Grzesk deserves serious consideration. So does Drew Diener and Brian Barone. I'm more skeptical about other applicants who do not have a connection with the state and might view this as a quick pit stop. Pete Dougherty took somewhat of a swipe at Brian Wardle in his latest article when he talked about recruiting talent but needing someone who could coach that talent to make them into a team. This is the AD's dilemma. What is the trump qualification for a successful applicant? Bennett was not a great recruiter but God could he coach a team. Wardle, the most successful coach since Bennett, was able to bring in an unprecedented number of quality recruits. The right decision is a career make or break for AD, Mary Ellen Gillespie. She has to select a winner without alienating the current players, the recruits and the Bennett's. Oh and yes, that person needs to be a super community salesperson. I have three names on my list in no particular order -- Barone, Drew Diener and Grzesk. It's your turn Mary Ellen. I strongly disagree with the notion that Bennett couldn't recruit. He simply pursued a different type of player. He recruited defenders and shooters, not high flyers or track athletes. Wardle's sought a combination of skill and athleticism but rarely landed his top target. When he did, we got Brown and Sykes. When we missed top targets they were forced to settle with highly athletic players with a dire need to learn skill and fundamental play. It made the teams strong defensively, but made offense a struggle. Grzesk will also pursue players that fit his system, even if they're not highly rated, much like Bennett and Bo Ryan. Grzesk has a terrific eye for talent. Trying to recruit to St. Norbert is the equivalent to trying to recruit to UWGB. Recruiting is more about recognizing potential than it is about convincing popular playing to play for you.
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Post by carr34 on Apr 1, 2015 19:28:09 GMT -6
I know the Bennett's are pushing for Grzesk and they should be respected for a long list of reasons. That said Dick did supported Soderberg and Heideman as well. Loyalty is a good thing but a decision on a new coach for Green Bay has to be based on more than a past relationship and loyalty to that relationship. Grzesk deserves serious consideration. So does Drew Diener and Brian Barone. I'm more skeptical about other applicants who do not have a connection with the state and might view this as a quick pit stop. Pete Dougherty took somewhat of a swipe at Brian Wardle in his latest article when he talked about recruiting talent but needing someone who could coach that talent to make them into a team. This is the AD's dilemma. What is the trump qualification for a successful applicant? Bennett was not a great recruiter but God could he coach a team. Wardle, the most successful coach since Bennett, was able to bring in an unprecedented number of quality recruits. The right decision is a career make or break for AD, Mary Ellen Gillespie. She has to select a winner without alienating the current players, the recruits and the Bennett's. Oh and yes, that person needs to be a super community salesperson. I have three names on my list in no particular order -- Barone, Drew Diener and Grzesk. It's your turn Mary Ellen. I strongly disagree with the notion that Bennett couldn't recruit. He simply pursued a different type of player. He recruited defenders and shooters, not high flyers or track athletes. Wardle's sought a combination of skill and athleticism but rarely landed his top target. When he did, we got Brown and Sykes. When we missed top targets they were forced to settle with highly athletic players with a dire need to learn skill and fundamental play. It made the teams strong defensively, but made offense a struggle. Grzesk will also pursue players that fit his system, even if they're not highly rated, much like Bennett and Bo Ryan. Grzesk has a terrific eye for talent. Trying to recruit to St. Norbert is the equivalent to trying to recruit to UWGB. Recruiting is more about recognizing potential than it is about convincing popular playing to play for you. How is recruiting at Norberts like recruiting at GB? They have a nice campus in a bigger town with super facilities. On top of that they play in a terrible conference that is ripe for the picking. Again, I really, really like Gary as a person and coach but as far as I can tell his teams have done squat in the post season. BTW...if you want to talk about a tough sell, go watch a game at Stritch. They have 5 rows of bleachers on one side of the court. The worst facilities I have ever seen at the college level yet Diener keeps beating out top D2 programs for his players and he has a banner hung. Edit: I am sorry for jumping in and making this all about Drew. Its just that I was surprised that his name didn't seem to be getting any traction here or in the paper so when my buddy told me about the coaches backing him I got kind of fired up. Hope it is all cool.
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Post by shooting the J on Apr 1, 2015 19:42:26 GMT -6
I strongly disagree with the notion that Bennett couldn't recruit. He simply pursued a different type of player. He recruited defenders and shooters, not high flyers or track athletes. Wardle's sought a combination of skill and athleticism but rarely landed his top target. When he did, we got Brown and Sykes. When we missed top targets they were forced to settle with highly athletic players with a dire need to learn skill and fundamental play. It made the teams strong defensively, but made offense a struggle. Grzesk will also pursue players that fit his system, even if they're not highly rated, much like Bennett and Bo Ryan. Grzesk has a terrific eye for talent. Trying to recruit to St. Norbert is the equivalent to trying to recruit to UWGB. Recruiting is more about recognizing potential than it is about convincing popular playing to play for you. How is recruiting at Norberts like recruiting at GB? They have a nice campus in a bigger town with super facilities. On top of that they play in a terrible conference that is ripe for the picking. Again, I really, really like Gary as a person and coach but as far as I can tell his teams have done squat in the post season. BTW...if you want to talk about a tough sell, go watch a game at Stritch. They have 5 rows of bleachers on one side of the court. The worst facilities I have ever seen at the college level yet Diener keeps beating out top D2 programs for his players and he has a banner hung. It doesn't matter what conference Grzesk is in, he still has to recruit against UWW, UWSP, and all the other top D3 schools. He has to convince players to pay the ridiculous St Norbert tuition instead of state school tuition. He's even convinced players with scholarship offers to instead play for him. Don't get me wrong, I like Drew Diener a lot, I'm just not sure everyone really knows what to think of NAIA basketball.
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Post by carr34 on Apr 1, 2015 19:55:45 GMT -6
How is recruiting at Norberts like recruiting at GB? They have a nice campus in a bigger town with super facilities. On top of that they play in a terrible conference that is ripe for the picking. Again, I really, really like Gary as a person and coach but as far as I can tell his teams have done squat in the post season. BTW...if you want to talk about a tough sell, go watch a game at Stritch. They have 5 rows of bleachers on one side of the court. The worst facilities I have ever seen at the college level yet Diener keeps beating out top D2 programs for his players and he has a banner hung. It doesn't matter what conference Grzesk is in, he still has to recruit against UWW, UWSP, and all the other top D3 schools. He has to convince players to pay the ridiculous St Norbert tuition instead of state school tuition. He's even convinced players with scholarship offers to instead play for him. Don't get me wrong, I like Drew Diener a lot, I'm just not sure everyone really knows what to think of NAIA basketball. I think your question about NAIA is one most in Wisconsin have. In most of the country NAIA is much more respected than D3. The level of talent at nationals is far above most D3. Now Whitewater and Point are very good but their budgets and other built in advantages are great. Stritch beat Whitewater this year and while they lost at Winona State this year last year they went there beat them. I would love for you to have watched Stritch-Robert Morris(Illinois) over the years, every player on their team was D1 talent but had been booted or flunked out. I have never seen more dunks in warmups before the refs came out. As far as tuition...Stritch is $35000 a year for a campus that is brutal and they only give 2.5 scholarships vs. 6 for every other top NAIA program yet he keeps winning championships every year.
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Post by fightphoe93 on Apr 1, 2015 20:04:12 GMT -6
I'm kind of a fan of the Diener family in general. I grew up in Fond Du Lac. The first organized basketball team I was ever on was a YMCA rec league team in 1978-79 coached by one of the Dieners (I think it was Jim) and Travis Diener's older brother Dan was one of my teammates.
It's pretty amazing how much success that family has had since the '70s and '80s when I first met some of the family members. It would be kind of cool to see a Diener in charge, but Gary Grzesk sounds like a very good choice as well. They both have solid qualifications to be sure.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Apr 1, 2015 21:19:02 GMT -6
I have to take a little issue with the article by Pete Dougherty. I think some of it was being a romantic about the past and not being realistic.
First, it mentions that Bennett and Ryan built up UW to national championship levels, I won't dispute that. However, we need to concern ourselves with the body of work at the mid major level. Bo Ryan was 30-27 overall and 13-15 in the horizon league in his two seasons at Milwaukee. With the best player in Green Bay history and one of the best ever in the state, Tony Bennett, GB went 42-14 in conference play. They went to two NIT's and one NCAA tournament. In Tony's senior year they lost in the conference tournament despite being 14-2 in the league and then lost in the NIT. This is a sin that had the natives restless about Brian Wardle. After that year Dick went 9-7 in league play before retooling with another future NBA player in Jeff Nordgaard. I know Jeff was lightly recruited for hoops and Dick helped to coach him up to the NBA level but in the end we can't forget that he was drafted into the NBA and did have talent. I just think it is important to remember that teaching the game is important but even Dick Bennett needed talent to win at GB. To take a line from Wardle and use it in this context, you can't pretend Dick Bennett did it all with X's and O's when he had some really talented Jimmy's and Joe's.
At UW Dick was 37-43 all time in conference. Even in the final four year he was only 8-8. His overall NCAA record was 5-6 (1-5 if you take out the final four run). His NIT record was 2-3. I am just making sure we don't let Gary G. ride in on Dick's legend when it is important to remember he had two really talented players surrounded by good team basketball.
As for recruiting its way to success I also think it is important to look at what the other teams in the HL are doing on the talent side. Valpo, Oakland and Detroit are usually full of D1 high major transfers. CSU is going to lose their two best players to most likely Louisville and Ohio State. There is more talent in the league than when Dick was here, this isn't your dad's Mid Con anymore. Teaching the game is one thing but if GB doesn't get players it might not matter as the rest of the league is proving that they will have some combination of talent and coaching. If a team expects to win in the HL they can't have one without the other.
There really isn't anything to suggest that Gary G. is any more qualified than any of the other candidates. I don't like the Dick Bennett was great so Gary will be too line of thinking. Dick did a lot for GB and still does. It is just important to remember that he had two really amazing players and even that didn't guarantee his system worked at GB. Making the system work in today's HL is going to require more than what was needed in the old Mid Con and while it was good in the mid con it was powered by talent as well as coaching. If you told me Gary G could get some future NBA players to run his system then I might be for it but the kids I see him recruiting likely won't fit that bill and so I have my doubts on him taking over at GB.
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Post by knightlife920 on Apr 1, 2015 22:02:51 GMT -6
I have to take a little issue with the article by Pete Dougherty. I think some of it was being a romantic about the past and not being realistic. First, it mentions that Bennett and Ryan built up UW to national championship levels, I won't dispute that. However, we need to concern ourselves with the body of work at the mid major level. Bo Ryan was 30-27 overall and 13-15 in the horizon league in his two seasons at Milwaukee. With the best player in Green Bay history and one of the best ever in the state, Tony Bennett, GB went 42-14 in conference play. They went to two NIT's and one NCAA tournament. In Tony's senior year they lost in the conference tournament despite being 14-2 in the league and then lost in the NIT. This is a sin that had the natives restless about Brian Wardle. After that year Dick went 9-7 in league play before retooling with another future NBA player in Jeff Nordgaard. I know Jeff was lightly recruited for hoops and Dick helped to coach him up to the NBA level but in the end we can't forget that he was drafted into the NBA and did have talent. I just think it is important to remember that teaching the game is important but even Dick Bennett needed talent to win at GB. To take a line from Wardle and use it in this context, you can't pretend Dick Bennett did it all with X's and O's when he had some really talented Jimmy's and Joe's. At UW Dick was 37-43 all time in conference. Even in the final four year he was only 8-8. His overall NCAA record was 5-6 (1-5 if you take out the final four run). His NIT record was 2-3. I am just making sure we don't let Gary G. ride in on Dick's legend when it is important to remember he had two really talented players surrounded by good team basketball. As for recruiting its way to success I also think it is important to look at what the other teams in the HL are doing on the talent side. Valpo, Oakland and Detroit are usually full of D1 high major transfers. CSU is going to lose their two best players to most likely Louisville and Ohio State. There is more talent in the league than when Dick was here, this isn't your dad's Mid Con anymore. Teaching the game is one thing but if GB doesn't get players it might not matter as the rest of the league is proving that they will have some combination of talent and coaching. If a team expects to win in the HL they can't have one without the other. There really isn't anything to suggest that Gary G. is any more qualified than any of the other candidates. I don't like the Dick Bennett was great so Gary will be too line of thinking. Dick did a lot for GB and still does. It is just important to remember that he had two really amazing players and even that didn't guarantee his system worked at GB. Making the system work in today's HL is going to require more than what was needed in the old Mid Con and while it was good in the mid con it was powered by talent as well as coaching. If you told me Gary G could get some future NBA players to run his system then I might be for it but the kids I see him recruiting likely won't fit that bill and so I have my doubts on him taking over at GB. I'm too much of a young gun to even remember the Dick Bennett days, but I can tell you with his endorsement or not, Grzesk has earned his spot as the potential head coach. I literally live 30 steps from where Grzesk coaches the Knights so I get to a few games, and from what I've seen he gets his guys fired up and gets their best performance night in and night out. What really convinced me that he could coach is not the string of conference titles and run of back to back years with an All-American (Cerroni could've been one too as he lead, I believe, all of the NCAA in 3 point % and played some pretty good defense too) but one game in particular when the ever so hyped scoring machine Grinnell Pioneers rolled into town with their ultra unorthodox style of offense that was putting up well over 100 points per game, and Grzesk was able to totally retool his defense for that game and we ended up winning by a sizable margin. I could have never seen Wardle do that, he simply didn't have the adjustment and x and o knowledge to win big games. I did mention above the conference titles too. People rip on the MWC all the time but you have to remember that to go UNDEFEATED BACK TO BACK YEARS in conference is almost unheard of no matter who you play. The lack of their tournament success is due to a few things. First, they usually get an awful seed and have to go on the road in their first game, despite a stellar record. They also, due to a weaker conference, don't get to play stronger talent to prepare for the tournament. They go from playing lowly Lawrence one week to playing the Augustanas and Steven's Points of the world the next. SNC is also a difficult place to recruit the top talent to as well. Most of the best in-state players go to one of the big UW schools as they would rather not pay 40 grand a year to play basketball. That is where Grzesk impresses me again. His last two All-Americans, for example, were from two tiny schools in Valders and Kiel and were not heavily recruited. I have also seen considerable improvement from the role players and the guys who only start for a year or two as well. The point is he seems to develop guys pretty well. There are some things about Grzesk I'm not so fond of with Grzesk either, such as he at least used to partake in the same verbal bombardments that Wardle did as well, or so I've heard from former players. But overall the guy is a winner, he can develop talent, he knows his Xs and Os, and most importantly, Green Bay is where he wants to be and that is why he will be successful.
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Post by knightlife920 on Apr 1, 2015 22:06:54 GMT -6
I strongly disagree with the notion that Bennett couldn't recruit. He simply pursued a different type of player. He recruited defenders and shooters, not high flyers or track athletes. Wardle's sought a combination of skill and athleticism but rarely landed his top target. When he did, we got Brown and Sykes. When we missed top targets they were forced to settle with highly athletic players with a dire need to learn skill and fundamental play. It made the teams strong defensively, but made offense a struggle. Grzesk will also pursue players that fit his system, even if they're not highly rated, much like Bennett and Bo Ryan. Grzesk has a terrific eye for talent. Trying to recruit to St. Norbert is the equivalent to trying to recruit to UWGB. Recruiting is more about recognizing potential than it is about convincing popular playing to play for you. How is recruiting at Norberts like recruiting at GB? They have a nice campus in a bigger town with super facilities. On top of that they play in a terrible conference that is ripe for the picking. Again, I really, really like Gary as a person and coach but as far as I can tell his teams have done squat in the post season. BTW...if you want to talk about a tough sell, go watch a game at Stritch. They have 5 rows of bleachers on one side of the court. The worst facilities I have ever seen at the college level yet Diener keeps beating out top D2 programs for his players and he has a banner hung. Edit: I am sorry for jumping in and making this all about Drew. Its just that I was surprised that his name didn't seem to be getting any traction here or in the paper so when my buddy told me about the coaches backing him I got kind of fired up. Hope it is all cool. Have you seen Schuldes or De Pere?!?!?!?!?!?! I guess you don't know the definition of "Super facilities" or "bigger town." Schuldes is an absolute embarrassment to call a college athletic facility and De Pere has a population of 20,000 old people. Oh you crack me up....
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Post by shooting the J on Apr 1, 2015 22:07:13 GMT -6
I have to take a little issue with the article by Pete Dougherty. I think some of it was being a romantic about the past and not being realistic. First, it mentions that Bennett and Ryan built up UW to national championship levels, I won't dispute that. However, we need to concern ourselves with the body of work at the mid major level. Bo Ryan was 30-27 overall and 13-15 in the horizon league in his two seasons at Milwaukee. With the best player in Green Bay history and one of the best ever in the state, Tony Bennett, GB went 42-14 in conference play. They went to two NIT's and one NCAA tournament. In Tony's senior year they lost in the conference tournament despite being 14-2 in the league and then lost in the NIT. This is a sin that had the natives restless about Brian Wardle. After that year Dick went 9-7 in league play before retooling with another future NBA player in Jeff Nordgaard. I know Jeff was lightly recruited for hoops and Dick helped to coach him up to the NBA level but in the end we can't forget that he was drafted into the NBA and did have talent. I just think it is important to remember that teaching the game is important but even Dick Bennett needed talent to win at GB. To take a line from Wardle and use it in this context, you can't pretend Dick Bennett did it all with X's and O's when he had some really talented Jimmy's and Joe's. At UW Dick was 37-43 all time in conference. Even in the final four year he was only 8-8. His overall NCAA record was 5-6 (1-5 if you take out the final four run). His NIT record was 2-3. I am just making sure we don't let Gary G. ride in on Dick's legend when it is important to remember he had two really talented players surrounded by good team basketball. As for recruiting its way to success I also think it is important to look at what the other teams in the HL are doing on the talent side. Valpo, Oakland and Detroit are usually full of D1 high major transfers. CSU is going to lose their two best players to most likely Louisville and Ohio State. There is more talent in the league than when Dick was here, this isn't your dad's Mid Con anymore. Teaching the game is one thing but if GB doesn't get players it might not matter as the rest of the league is proving that they will have some combination of talent and coaching. If a team expects to win in the HL they can't have one without the other. There really isn't anything to suggest that Gary G. is any more qualified than any of the other candidates. I don't like the Dick Bennett was great so Gary will be too line of thinking. Dick did a lot for GB and still does. It is just important to remember that he had two really amazing players and even that didn't guarantee his system worked at GB. Making the system work in today's HL is going to require more than what was needed in the old Mid Con and while it was good in the mid con it was powered by talent as well as coaching. If you told me Gary G could get some future NBA players to run his system then I might be for it but the kids I see him recruiting likely won't fit that bill and so I have my doubts on him taking over at GB. Please name those NBA players Dane Fife rolled out at IPFW. Grzesk currently has a terrific athlete at St Norbert in DJ Devalk. He'd be considered a serious athlete at Green Bay. Gary and his staff added shooting to his game, and he had a terrific freshman year. If he can get players like that in De Pere, he'll be able to recruit and develop top level players in Green Bay.
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Post by knightlife920 on Apr 1, 2015 22:09:27 GMT -6
I have to take a little issue with the article by Pete Dougherty. I think some of it was being a romantic about the past and not being realistic. First, it mentions that Bennett and Ryan built up UW to national championship levels, I won't dispute that. However, we need to concern ourselves with the body of work at the mid major level. Bo Ryan was 30-27 overall and 13-15 in the horizon league in his two seasons at Milwaukee. With the best player in Green Bay history and one of the best ever in the state, Tony Bennett, GB went 42-14 in conference play. They went to two NIT's and one NCAA tournament. In Tony's senior year they lost in the conference tournament despite being 14-2 in the league and then lost in the NIT. This is a sin that had the natives restless about Brian Wardle. After that year Dick went 9-7 in league play before retooling with another future NBA player in Jeff Nordgaard. I know Jeff was lightly recruited for hoops and Dick helped to coach him up to the NBA level but in the end we can't forget that he was drafted into the NBA and did have talent. I just think it is important to remember that teaching the game is important but even Dick Bennett needed talent to win at GB. To take a line from Wardle and use it in this context, you can't pretend Dick Bennett did it all with X's and O's when he had some really talented Jimmy's and Joe's. At UW Dick was 37-43 all time in conference. Even in the final four year he was only 8-8. His overall NCAA record was 5-6 (1-5 if you take out the final four run). His NIT record was 2-3. I am just making sure we don't let Gary G. ride in on Dick's legend when it is important to remember he had two really talented players surrounded by good team basketball. As for recruiting its way to success I also think it is important to look at what the other teams in the HL are doing on the talent side. Valpo, Oakland and Detroit are usually full of D1 high major transfers. CSU is going to lose their two best players to most likely Louisville and Ohio State. There is more talent in the league than when Dick was here, this isn't your dad's Mid Con anymore. Teaching the game is one thing but if GB doesn't get players it might not matter as the rest of the league is proving that they will have some combination of talent and coaching. If a team expects to win in the HL they can't have one without the other. There really isn't anything to suggest that Gary G. is any more qualified than any of the other candidates. I don't like the Dick Bennett was great so Gary will be too line of thinking. Dick did a lot for GB and still does. It is just important to remember that he had two really amazing players and even that didn't guarantee his system worked at GB. Making the system work in today's HL is going to require more than what was needed in the old Mid Con and while it was good in the mid con it was powered by talent as well as coaching. If you told me Gary G could get some future NBA players to run his system then I might be for it but the kids I see him recruiting likely won't fit that bill and so I have my doubts on him taking over at GB. Please name those NBA players Dane Fife rolled out at IPFW. Grzesk currently has a terrific athlete at St Norbert in DJ Devalk. He'd be considered a serious athlete at Green Bay. Gary and his staff added shooting to his game, and he had a terrific freshman year. If he can get players like that in De Pere, he'll be able to recruit and develop top level players in Green Bay. Devalk should be on scholarship at Green Bay over both of his HS teammates Lowe and Botz.
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Post by shooting the J on Apr 1, 2015 22:32:10 GMT -6
I see that Otzelberger is returning to Iowa State. I expect that eliminates him as a candidate. Yes TV2 just announced he has pulled his name from consideration after taking the job at Iowa. That's great news. His cheating runs far deeper than what he's been caught doing. He didn't deserve the opportunity to interview here.
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Post by fansincebuss on Apr 1, 2015 22:35:06 GMT -6
Please name those NBA players Dane Fife rolled out at IPFW. Grzesk currently has a terrific athlete at St Norbert in DJ Devalk. He'd be considered a serious athlete at Green Bay. Gary and his staff added shooting to his game, and he had a terrific freshman year. If he can get players like that in De Pere, he'll be able to recruit and develop top level players in Green Bay. Devalk should be on scholarship at Green Bay over both of his HS teammates Lowe and Botz. I think Devalk is a scholarship level player as well. I believe he was overlooked because of an injury in high school.
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Post by fansincebuss on Apr 1, 2015 22:36:45 GMT -6
Yes TV2 just announced he has pulled his name from consideration after taking the job at Iowa. That's great news. His cheating runs far deeper than what he's been caught doing. He didn't deserve the opportunity to interview here. If it was that bad why did Iowa State bring him back?
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Post by fansincebuss on Apr 1, 2015 22:58:53 GMT -6
I know the Bennett's are pushing for Grzesk and they should be respected for a long list of reasons. That said Dick did supported Soderberg and Heideman as well. Loyalty is a good thing but a decision on a new coach for Green Bay has to be based on more than a past relationship and loyalty to that relationship. Grzesk deserves serious consideration. So does Drew Diener and Brian Barone. I'm more skeptical about other applicants who do not have a connection with the state and might view this as a quick pit stop. Pete Dougherty took somewhat of a swipe at Brian Wardle in his latest article when he talked about recruiting talent but needing someone who could coach that talent to make them into a team. This is the AD's dilemma. What is the trump qualification for a successful applicant? Bennett was not a great recruiter but God could he coach a team. Wardle, the most successful coach since Bennett, was able to bring in an unprecedented number of quality recruits. The right decision is a career make or break for AD, Mary Ellen Gillespie. She has to select a winner without alienating the current players, the recruits and the Bennett's. Oh and yes, that person needs to be a super community salesperson. I have three names on my list in no particular order -- Barone, Drew Diener and Grzesk. It's your turn Mary Ellen. I like your three names but I would add Semling and Miller as well Personally I am leaning toward Diener, I hope he at least gets consideration. I can support any of the candidates from the pole, as I said in another post I think we have a good group to choose from.
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Post by fansincebuss on Apr 1, 2015 23:24:25 GMT -6
I know the Bennett's are pushing for Grzesk and they should be respected for a long list of reasons. That said Dick did supported Soderberg and Heideman as well. Loyalty is a good thing but a decision on a new coach for Green Bay has to be based on more than a past relationship and loyalty to that relationship. Grzesk deserves serious consideration. So does Drew Diener and Brian Barone. I'm more skeptical about other applicants who do not have a connection with the state and might view this as a quick pit stop. Pete Dougherty took somewhat of a swipe at Brian Wardle in his latest article when he talked about recruiting talent but needing someone who could coach that talent to make them into a team. This is the AD's dilemma. What is the trump qualification for a successful applicant? Bennett was not a great recruiter but God could he coach a team. Wardle, the most successful coach since Bennett, was able to bring in an unprecedented number of quality recruits. The right decision is a career make or break for AD, Mary Ellen Gillespie. She has to select a winner without alienating the current players, the recruits and the Bennett's. Oh and yes, that person needs to be a super community salesperson. I have three names on my list in no particular order -- Barone, Drew Diener and Grzesk. It's your turn Mary Ellen. I like your three names but I would add Semling and Miller as well Personally I am leaning toward Diener, I hope he at least gets consideration. I can support any of the candidates from the pole, as I said in another post I think we have a good group to choose from. One last thought before I head for bed, I can not resist the jab. With all these candidates available, I think there are many Milwaukee fans wishing they were in the market for a new coach. I don't think there are many division 1 teams out there right now that would look to triple Jeter's salary.
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