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Post by phearthephoenix on Mar 31, 2015 20:53:53 GMT -6
The Michigan State website lists Dane Fife's salary for 2014 at $192,110. You'd think that would be accurate considering it's from the school's website, but they list Tom Izzo's salary at $399,078 when it's actually over $3 million a year. So who knows if that Fife number is correct or not. Wardle had a base pay of $230,000 this past year but with incentives and other things like his basketball camps his total compensation was closer to $300,000.
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Post by gbbrl97 on Mar 31, 2015 21:01:23 GMT -6
Good insight GBPhoenix.....As fans we aspire to see the program to get back to the NCAA's and be that team nobody wants to play. That would require someone who is all-in mentally and be consumed by winning. Based on your assessment that MEG wants to put her stamp on the program and wants to go long, Fife and Otzelberger probably would be the leading candidates, with Greszk at a close 3rd.
We had DB, then the loyal assistant in Heideman. Then once Heideman became the Phil Bengston of GB basketball, we went with a hometown kid in TK (from the Tom Crean/Tom Izzo tree), then the loyal assistant in BW once TK left.....So if we don't want to go down any 'tree' of DB or TK/Crean again, that will eliminate Semling, Barone, and possibly Greszk, but I think he's still in play since he has more HC experience than Fife or Otzelbeger, and is a former GB great and a proven winner, but no deep runs in the D3 tournament in his SNC tenure.
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Post by shooting the J on Apr 1, 2015 6:21:26 GMT -6
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Post by gbbrl97 on Apr 1, 2015 6:29:09 GMT -6
I just read this article....Hopefully MEG will look at Greszk and either Miller or Semling from the DIII pool of candidates. If Grezsk is the one, it will depend on who he gets on his staff; He will need a couple superstar recruiters on his staff, preferably one of them being Cornelius/Foster (if one of them doesn't not follow BW to Bradley).
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Post by PantherU on Apr 1, 2015 8:44:13 GMT -6
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Post by gbbrl97 on Apr 1, 2015 9:10:12 GMT -6
April Fools!!! Nice thought, but DB likes his current position as Chancellor/AD/Head Coach of UW-Retirement Center, Necedah Campus.....;-)
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Post by fansincebuss on Apr 1, 2015 14:23:28 GMT -6
I see that Otzelberger is returning to Iowa State. I expect that eliminates him as a candidate.
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Post by knightlife920 on Apr 1, 2015 15:10:22 GMT -6
Dwayne Stephens from Michigan State is also reportedly being considered. I would much rather have him than Fife (he just seems like a Wardle clone).
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Post by shooting the J on Apr 1, 2015 15:18:55 GMT -6
Dwayne Stephens from Michigan State is also reportedly being considered. I would much rather have him than Fife (he just seems like a Wardle clone). I worry Stephens could be a Mike Garland clone. Garland won just 9 games in 3 years as the Cleveland State had coach after he was hired away from Michigan State.
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Post by fightphoe93 on Apr 1, 2015 15:47:59 GMT -6
It would be kind of ironic to get Stephens as head coach.
In the 1991 NCAA tournament, when UWGB was up against Michigan State, I believe Stephens (playing for MSU) got a partial block of Tony Bennett's last shot in the game that would have given the Phoenix a lead with maybe 15 seconds or so left. The Spartans got the ball back and Steve Smith hit a long 2 pointer with a hand right in his face that won the game and sent the Phoenix home after their 1st NCAA tournament game 60-58.
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Post by carr34 on Apr 1, 2015 16:15:37 GMT -6
I just had a very interesting conversation regarding the search. As I mentioned in an earlier thread, I am a new poster but a long time lurker/fan (used to love watching Tony in the Brown County Arena) and I had the opportunity to watch many Cardinal Stritch games over the last few years as a good friend's son played.
Before I get to the conversation I want to make it clear that I really believe that Drew Diener would be a great hire. His record over his 6 years at Stritch is unmatched in college basketball over that period with an 169-44 record. He has won the conference every year as well as the NAIA national title in 2013. He has been conference coach of the year 5 times and national coach of the year once. He has done this all with only 2.5 scholarships vs. the 6 that the rest of the programs in the country are afforded. I think people forget that he was also an assistant at Virginia when they won a share of the ACC title in 2007 at which time I believe he was the youngest assistant at a BCS program.
Now, about the conversation. In an earlier life I had the chance to coach high school basketball and still stay in contact with many in the state basketball community. I had a chance today to chat with an old friend and with out getting into specifics, I understand that a few of the most influential high school coaches (as well as at least 2 of the winningest in state history) are getting behind Diener and making calls. I have no idea where the search is at the moment but I would not count out Diener just yet. I can promise you that if the names I heard are in fact calling, GB will be listening and Diener will be getting a long look. Don't believe everything you are reading in the Press Gazette. Of course you know nothing about me but I promise I am not making stuff up. Could be interesting.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Apr 1, 2015 17:18:37 GMT -6
I don't like Stephens as much either and like J mentioned I worry about him being Mike Garland 2.0. I wonder how much influence Wardle has here in dropping names to MEG. Stephens was an assistant at Marquette when Wardle played there.
I have no doubt that people around the state would put some momentum behind Diener. I am not sure where that will take him though. Is MEG doing this all on her own, does she have some people close to her to use as a sounding board or is she using a search firm?
I am not sure that Otzelberger going back to ISU 100% closes him out. Sure I can see that being the case but it might be him taking the sure thing with the understanding that he still wants to be a head coach. Maybe he has info that he was more of a courtesy interview and is further down the list of candidates. I can't imagine a guy stating he wants to be a lead guy would take a #2 position right before he has his first interview for a head coaching job unless he had inside info or an understanding with Hoiberg about other #1 jobs.
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Post by stillaphoenixphan on Apr 1, 2015 17:24:32 GMT -6
I see that Otzelberger is returning to Iowa State. I expect that eliminates him as a candidate. Yes TV2 just announced he has pulled his name from consideration after taking the job at Iowa.
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Post by thetulsawarrior on Apr 1, 2015 17:51:14 GMT -6
I know the Bennett's are pushing for Grzesk and they should be respected for a long list of reasons. That said Dick did supported Soderberg and Heideman as well. Loyalty is a good thing but a decision on a new coach for Green Bay has to be based on more than a past relationship and loyalty to that relationship.
Grzesk deserves serious consideration. So does Drew Diener and Brian Barone. I'm more skeptical about other applicants who do not have a connection with the state and might view this as a quick pit stop.
Pete Dougherty took somewhat of a swipe at Brian Wardle in his latest article when he talked about recruiting talent but needing someone who could coach that talent to make them into a team. This is the AD's dilemma. What is the trump qualification for a successful applicant? Bennett was not a great recruiter but God could he coach a team. Wardle, the most successful coach since Bennett, was able to bring in an unprecedented number of quality recruits.
The right decision is a career make or break for AD, Mary Ellen Gillespie. She has to select a winner without alienating the current players, the recruits and the Bennett's. Oh and yes, that person needs to be a super community salesperson.
I have three names on my list in no particular order -- Barone, Drew Diener and Grzesk. It's your turn Mary Ellen.
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Post by carr34 on Apr 1, 2015 18:58:35 GMT -6
I really like Gary as a person, a first rate guy and he has done a wonderful job. He has not had any post season success and I have no respect for the conference. As far as Dick and Tony...of course they would endorse him, they should endorse him. But what exactly will those endorsements mean once he gets the job?
As far as Brian, I do not know him so I don't have an opinion other than he was the top assistant on a staff that recruited no shooters and failed to make the last step with 2 of the best players in school history.
If what I was told is true and Diener is getting the backing of the coaches I was told, that will mean something down the road. When GB was at its best it was a destination for very good Wisconsin kids. The best will go to UW and Marq but there is no reason that kids leave the state to go to Drake or San Jose State or even Northern Iowa or Creighton for that matter. Those last two are very good now but GB should be able to get kids from Berlin to stay in state. You want the Resch full? Recruit the hell out of Wisconsin and northern Illinois and watch the seats fill. Jeter has done a crappy job at Milwaukee so the state should be ours for the taking. I chuckle when I read people questioning if Diener can recruit. Believe me when I say that will not be a problem. Young, charismatic, players love him and play extremely hard for him. This would be a home run hire and would put some buzz about GB around the gyms of Wisconsin....I will now be writing a note to Diener asking for a % of his contract...ha!
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