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Post by originalfan on May 18, 2020 12:16:24 GMT -6
Looking at the official website it seems that the parting was on good terms??? How about Joe Krabbenhoft unlikely and remote possibility
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Post by yayphoenixyay on May 18, 2020 13:30:01 GMT -6
Carrington Love offering his thoughts:
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Post by yayphoenixyay on May 18, 2020 15:42:22 GMT -6
Sounds like recruit Jacob Jones is still on board:
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Post by phearthephoenix on May 18, 2020 16:02:34 GMT -6
It sounds like GB’s way out of paying the full buyout is a “re-assignment clause” according to Scott Venci: t.co/oxwnLhCkFB
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Post by yayphoenixyay on May 18, 2020 16:27:43 GMT -6
It sounds like GB’s way out of paying the full buyout is a “re-assignment clause” according to Scott Venci: t.co/oxwnLhCkFBSo, they could offer him a different, undesirable position at the school, then not pay him if he didn’t accept it? That’s how I’m reading it anyway. If that is the case, it would be perhaps the scummiest thing I’ve ever heard. Maybe I’m interpreting it the wrong way.
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Post by shooting the J on May 18, 2020 17:51:16 GMT -6
This situation is a total mess. The timing stinks, there doesn't appear to be much of a coherent strategy, and of course there is the matter of the $'s. Lets face it, GB has issues and they are mostly baked into the cake: budget, recruiting, scheduling. I'm not sure how firing Linc helps significantly with any of them and in fact may exacerbate them. I have no idea what you'll do for a coach. Linc will land on his feet somewhere good. He's gonna have a big pot of money so he could even go back to D2 if he wanted. (Not likely.) I think Donnelly's all set at FSC for a few years so I doubt he's coming back here. That said, he'd be welcome back with open arms by many if he wanted it. As far as the money's concerned, Linc should make certain he gets every single $ he's due. No Mr. Nice Guy. The team had an RPI of 194 this past year. The mess was Linc's program. The only thing making this guy seem like a decent coach was that the rest of the conference fell apart. The program was really, really good before Darner, and could be good again with the right coach.
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Post by rp40fan on May 18, 2020 18:04:10 GMT -6
This situation is a total mess. The timing stinks, there doesn't appear to be much of a coherent strategy, and of course there is the matter of the $'s. Lets face it, GB has issues and they are mostly baked into the cake: budget, recruiting, scheduling. I'm not sure how firing Linc helps significantly with any of them and in fact may exacerbate them. I have no idea what you'll do for a coach. Linc will land on his feet somewhere good. He's gonna have a big pot of money so he could even go back to D2 if he wanted. (Not likely.) I think Donnelly's all set at FSC for a few years so I doubt he's coming back here. That said, he'd be welcome back with open arms by many if he wanted it. As far as the money's concerned, Linc should make certain he gets every single $ he's due. No Mr. Nice Guy. The team had an RPI of 194 this past year. The mess was Linc's program. The only thing making this guy seem like a decent coach was that the rest of the conference fell apart. The program was really, really good before Darner, and could be good again with the right coach. 1st five years Darner 92-80 (.535) 51-39 (.567) 1 NCAA L, 1 CBI L, CIT runner up Wardle 95-65 (.594) 54-30 (.643) 2 NIT L’s / 1 CIT L Kowalczyk 77-73 (.513) 40-40 (.500) No postseason Yeah the program was really really good before Darner Haha. If you hate Darner just say that.
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Post by yayphoenixyay on May 18, 2020 18:28:11 GMT -6
The team had an RPI of 194 this past year. The mess was Linc's program. The only thing making this guy seem like a decent coach was that the rest of the conference fell apart. The program was really, really good before Darner, and could be good again with the right coach. 1st five years Darner 92-80 (.535) 51-39 (.567) 1 NCAA L, 1 CBI L, CIT runner up Wardle 95-65 (.594) 54-30 (.643) 2 NIT L’s / 1 CIT L Kowalczyk 77-73 (.513) 40-40 (.500) No postseason Yeah the program was really really good before Darner Haha. If you hate Darner just say that. His hatred of Darner isn’t a secret. He didn’t post for almost four years because of it. Darner was a fine coach. Not a transcendent coach, but to say he was bad is simply false. The program didn’t tank, I mean we got to the tourney with him, after all.
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Post by yayphoenixyay on May 18, 2020 18:32:31 GMT -6
JayQuan’s thoughts:
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Post by FSCMocFan on May 18, 2020 18:32:57 GMT -6
Glad you said it so I didn't have to.
It's well known that he does so hate and always has.
Like I said, the problems are baked into the cake. If you think firing Linc is going to resolve anything I want some of what you're smoking. It's gotta be good.
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Post by fansincebuss on May 18, 2020 18:33:03 GMT -6
Do we even have a go-to UWGB beat reporter anymore? Although Demovsky had his clashes with TK and BW, at least he tried. Demovsky was buddies with TK. BW, not so much.
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Post by FSCMocFan on May 18, 2020 18:38:02 GMT -6
It sounds like GB’s way out of paying the full buyout is a “re-assignment clause” according to Scott Venci: t.co/oxwnLhCkFBBest of luck with that ploy. The article goes on to state that the last time it was tried they had to end up paying. Don't think that dog'll hunt.
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Post by yayphoenixyay on May 18, 2020 19:02:36 GMT -6
It sounds like GB’s way out of paying the full buyout is a “re-assignment clause” according to Scott Venci: t.co/oxwnLhCkFBBest of luck with that ploy. The article goes on to state that the last time it was tried they had to end up paying. Don't think that dog'll hunt. The fact that it’s even been tried before is sickening. Let’s hope for the integrity of the school they don’t go this route again.
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Post by Heartbroken Phoenix Fan on May 18, 2020 19:02:37 GMT -6
Bottom line regardless of what his former players say is Linc would have never gotten GB a regular season conference title. So the only hope was getting hot and lucky like they did in 2016. Then what? Lose by 30 in the NCAAs? Not ideal.
The firing, if the program truly doesn’t want to settle for being mediocre is completely justified. Last year his record was saved by a string of home games in a third tier tournament. That’s two years in a row you have a 500 record with some pretty talented players. Yes they had some tough non conference games but they also lost some pretty winnable road games.
The timing of it however is stupid and hiring a d-3 coach is dumb if not economical. I don’t think the next Bo Ryan or Dick Bennett will be walking through that door.
Let’s give Jimmie Foster a chance at being the first African American coach in the D-1 era (ever?).
You can’t keep a guy who said the first four games of the year were preseason games or a guy who hoped to always get one out of two on the road.
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Post by shooting the J on May 18, 2020 19:28:41 GMT -6
The team had an RPI of 194 this past year. The mess was Linc's program. The only thing making this guy seem like a decent coach was that the rest of the conference fell apart. The program was really, really good before Darner, and could be good again with the right coach. 1st five years Darner 92-80 (.535) 51-39 (.567) 1 NCAA L, 1 CBI L, CIT runner up Wardle 95-65 (.594) 54-30 (.643) 2 NIT L’s / 1 CIT L Kowalczyk 77-73 (.513) 40-40 (.500) No postseason Yeah the program was really really good before Darner Haha. If you hate Darner just say that. Won/loss record is obviously effected by the quality of opponent, hence why RPI exists. It turns arguments like this into fact based arguments. In a fact based argument, Darner pales compared to his predecessors. If you like only beating scrubs, Darner is fine. Wardle simply had a far superior program, and even Kowalczyk was better. Kowalczyk took over a dead program, Wardle made it one the consistently could compete with anyone and routinely beat high majors. Darner wasted that momentum and made GB irrelevant. There's just no way to cover up a 194 RPI ranking. Clear indicator of a rudderless program.
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