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Post by shooting the J on Nov 22, 2015 9:07:04 GMT -6
Minnesota-Duluth (3-2) @ Green Bay (0-3) Where: The Resch Center When: Sunday Noon
Don't forget that today's game time was moved up to noon.
Darner's gimmicks should be effective today against a D2 team, as they lack the vertically to beat the press over the top. Plus, Duluth just finished playing UW-Parkside early last evening.
I'm expecting another big game from Love and Lowe.
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Post by knightlife920 on Nov 22, 2015 12:55:30 GMT -6
Is this real life?
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Nov 22, 2015 13:10:03 GMT -6
Is rebounding optional for Linc? Down 18 boards at the half with a 6'4" guy getting 10. Play Hendo just to see if it stops the bleeding.
FTF...looking good again!
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Post by shooting the J on Nov 22, 2015 13:24:48 GMT -6
UMD lost to to Parkside by 18 last night.
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Post by thetulsawarrior on Nov 22, 2015 14:45:14 GMT -6
Think of this as a pre-season NFL game. For GB and Darner this is a time to play everyone and experiment. It's an exhibition game. This will be a tough season but it comes with implementing a new system. That said shot selection needs to be cleaned up along with a long list. The new emphasis on freedom of movement would have been nice if Kiefer Sykes was still around.
Where did Findlay's outside shot come from? Jesperson needs to spend his redshirt year in the weight room.
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Post by wolverinegbfan on Nov 22, 2015 15:41:13 GMT -6
Tulsa warrior, exactly. He will try different rotations all the way into mid-February. This team will be very up and down all season. Their last full practice was on Nov.11th and their next full practice will be on the 27th. They are basically playing a brand new completely different style based off of 13 practices and 5 games with most guys who were recruited for a completely different style. Some of the comments I read are laughable with a teenager''s mentality that everything should be fixed immediately or else they must know more based on their message board skills. This program hasn't been to a NCAA tourney game in 20+ years. People should be begging for something different bc nothing so far has worked. Close doesn't mean anything, that's for people who've never been there nor ever will.
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Post by shooting the J on Nov 22, 2015 16:47:48 GMT -6
Tulsa warrior, exactly. He will try different rotations all the way into mid-February. This team will be very up and down all season. Their last full practice was on Nov.11th and their next full practice will be on the 27th. They are basically playing a brand new completely different style based off of 13 practices and 5 games with most guys who were recruited for a completely different style. Some of the comments I read are laughable with a teenager''s mentality that everything should be fixed immediately or else they must know more based on their message board skills. This program hasn't been to a NCAA tourney game in 20+ years. People should be begging for something different bc nothing so far has worked. Close doesn't mean anything, that's for people who've never been there nor ever will. How about you wait to insult our posters until after Linc wins his 1st Division 1 game. That might be awhile. You mentioned the team might be up and down. We're still waiting for the up. He hasn't been just trying different rotations and playing lots of players, he's played a very tight rotation. All but one fits his system. Green Bay basketball has a long history of success. We don't need different, we'd like better. If we're skeptical if Darner's gimmick based system will be successful at the D1 level, I don't think that's unwarranted. This is a smart fan base. Also, if you could get his loud mouth wife to stop yelling in my ear, that would be great too. Or at least have her learn the roster and know who the opponent is.
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Post by phoenixphan87 on Nov 22, 2015 17:11:24 GMT -6
I was encouraged by the trapping and execution the phoenix had in the 2nd half. That being said they were down at half to a D2 team without a player over 6'6 in the rotation. Getting killed on the boards by a team like that is alarming. Fouse will get rebounds, but outside of that I am not sure where it will come from. Not sure why Kanter did not play at all in the first half or why Hendo cant be used in spots for a minute or two when Lowe needs a break. Tevin Findlay gave this team a spark when they needed it and CLove was fantastic in the 2nd half. Botz looked like a guy who could have had a great career playing for the team in maroon. His shot looks flat and he doesn't do anything else that warrants big minutes.
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Post by shooting the J on Nov 22, 2015 17:33:59 GMT -6
I was encouraged by the trapping and execution the phoenix had in the 2nd half. That being said they were down at half to a D2 team without a player over 6'6 in the rotation. Getting killed on the boards by a team like that is alarming. Fouse will get rebounds, but outside of that I am not sure where it will come from. Not sure why Kanter did not play at all in the first half or why Hendo cant be used in spots for a minute or two when Lowe needs a break. Tevin Findlay gave this team a spark when they needed it and CLove was fantastic in the 2nd half. Botz looked like a guy who could have had a great career playing for the team in maroon. His shot looks flat and he doesn't do anything else that warrants big minutes. Totally agree with your comments on Tevin Findlay. He was outstanding defensively too. He's one of our few shooters to shoot with enough arc. I think Kanter is losing minutes because of his defense. Uwadiae is just awful. I'm still surprised we don't see more of Jamar Hurdle. GB went with the small lineup today, with Fouse at the 4. It was a disaster on the glass. Khalil Small took more bad shots today and drove into traffic regularly, but he's much better than Charles Cooper defensively. This team needs Small to except his role offensive soon, as it's in dire need of his defense. Carrington Loves no nonsense approach continues to be fun to watch. He's such a hard worker, I'm really happy for him that he's having such a strong senior year.
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Post by fightphoe93 on Nov 22, 2015 19:33:42 GMT -6
The way I understood how Linc won the DII title was that his team bombed a lot of threes and were quite proficient. They were almost the opposite of Wardle's teams who were below average outside shooters but good rebounders and very good at half court defense.
I think that style difference might take some time before it can work. It may take a couple recruiting classes to bring better shooters into the program. Who knows, maybe some of the current guys can develop better outside/FT shooting, but I'm not sure there's enough of those types of guys on the roster to accomplish what I think his vision might be.
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Post by wolverinegbfan on Nov 22, 2015 19:40:07 GMT -6
Considering they have played 11 or 12 players in every game, I wouldn't consider that a "tight rotation". If I hurt your feelings, I promise I will only agree with you from now on, haha. Yeah, that "gimmick" system has been really bad for Louisville, VCU (now Texas) and Darner so far.I don't know Coach Darner or his wife for that matter so I'll let you handle that on your own. Sounds like you are of the sensitive kind who gets upset when people don't whine and moan like you. You can be knowledgeable as you want, but the fact is that since Dick Bennett was there, nothing was quite good enough. Also, since you know all about GB's history and are the self proclaimed savior of their incredible heritage, GB went 0-8 in Bennett's first year. Was that bc of his "gimmick" style of bc none of those were his players who were accustomed to his style, possibly, and he recruited a small % of them.
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Post by shooting the J on Nov 22, 2015 21:17:45 GMT -6
Considering they have played 11 or 12 players in every game, I wouldn't consider that a "tight rotation". If I hurt your feelings, I promise I will only agree with you from now on, haha. Yeah, that "gimmick" system has been really bad for Louisville, VCU (now Texas) and Darner so far.I don't know Coach Darner or his wife for that matter so I'll let you handle that on your own. Sounds like you are of the sensitive kind who gets upset when people don't whine and moan like you. You can be knowledgeable as you want, but the fact is that since Dick Bennett was there, nothing was quite good enough. Also, since you know all about GB's history and are the self proclaimed savior of their incredible heritage, GB went 0-8 in Bennett's first year. Was that bc of his "gimmick" style of bc none of those were his players who were accustomed to his style, possibly, and he recruited a small % of them. Bennett took over a terrible program. There's talent here now. The program is strong, or at least it was. Playing a couple players 2-3 minutes a game doesn't mean there in the rotation. Don't try to compare Darner's press to Shaka Smarts Havoc. Smarts system is original and designed by a Rhodes Scholar. Darner's is typical. Rarely successful at the D1 level. Players are too tall and skilled at D1. Anyone who's been on this board knows I've been a long time supporter and promoter of GB basketball. I love attending games and talking hoops. I want nothing but success for the program. I understand how difficult if is to win and win big. I have concerns about what's going on. I hear things I haven't shared as I don't think it would be appropriate. I really, really do hope things improve.
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Post by knightlife920 on Nov 22, 2015 22:35:15 GMT -6
I don't understand why people were so quick to back Wardle after poor game management, questionable recruiting and ridiculous antics, but they bash Darner immediately after three losses to good teams on the road. Give it some time, if Darner becomes the next Wardle then by all means I will be calling him out, but for Christ sake we are 4 games in. Sorry Wardle and his haircut aren't around anymore but he clearly couldn't put us over the hump. Give Linc at the very least a whole year, egregious mismanagement or misconduct before you all cast judgment.
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Post by knightlife920 on Nov 22, 2015 22:42:58 GMT -6
What wouldn't be considered appropriate? We are all basically anonymous here, no one is going to call for your head if you say something sensitive. If there is a real reason not to like Linc, please share it, otherwise I will continue to be baffled by the impatience for him.
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Post by shooting the J on Nov 22, 2015 23:21:14 GMT -6
I don't understand why people were so quick to back Wardle after poor game management, questionable recruiting and ridiculous antics, but they bash Darner immediately after three losses to good teams on the road. Give it some time, if Darner becomes the next Wardle then by all means I will be calling him out, but for Christ sake we are 4 games in. Sorry Wardle and his haircut aren't around anymore but he clearly couldn't put us over the hump. Give Linc at the very least a whole year, egregious mismanagement or misconduct before you all cast judgment. That's funny considering the impatience is coming directly from you.
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