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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Mar 14, 2014 7:04:36 GMT -6
Humphrey, Garrett, Mays, Lowe and Findlay did most of the dunking. Sykes and Brown had a few but for the most part they warmed up with jumpers. Even if Sykes did a few dunks I have no problem with that. It was warm ups, he dunks in the games a lot he should warm up and make sure his knee was good to go for how he plays in a game. Even if his knee injury is being overstated his ankle injury was not. It was noticeable for 30 minutes of the game. So the ankle makes this conversation a moot point in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 12:08:50 GMT -6
I dont think he meant " why did he warm up if he hurt it during practice earlier in the day" i think he meant "if he hurt it, why was he risking further injury by doing the dunk line in warm ups." Not sure if dunking really is anymore risky but i think that is what he was going for. Not that he shouldnt warm up. Correct. That's what I mean. And by the way, I'm a she, not a he.
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Post by truth on Mar 14, 2014 17:45:24 GMT -6
I hate to see all the talk about injuries by fans and boosters.
1-- both Sykes and Brown played 35 minutes. And Brown took the 3 that would have sealed it in regulation. The one that was optional, with 20 seconds on the shot clock. Your either hurt or your not. If he was so hurt he couldn't shoot well what was that?
2--Sykes was definitely limited. And the kid was a warrior all year. But he was fine for the game at uwm that went to OT and fine for the second game where he and we absolutely got our asses handed to us by Aaron and uwm.
Yes the NCAA takes injuries into account but not these. A lot of teams are banged up at the end of the year.
If we get a bid it's because there aren't enough mid majors in the pool, not pity because two of your better players weren't 100 pct.
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Post by truth on Mar 14, 2014 17:45:46 GMT -6
I hate to see all the talk about injuries by fans and boosters.
1-- both Sykes and Brown played 35 minutes. And Brown took the 3 that would have sealed it in regulation. The one that was optional, with 20 seconds on the shot clock. Your either hurt or your not. If he was so hurt he couldn't shoot well what was that?
2--Sykes was definitely limited. And the kid was a warrior all year. But he was fine for the game at uwm that went to OT and fine for the second game where he and we absolutely got our asses handed to us by Aaron and uwm.
Yes the NCAA takes injuries into account but not these. A lot of teams are banged up at the end of the year.
If we get a bid it's because there aren't enough mid majors in the pool, not pity because two of your better players weren't 100 pct.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Mar 14, 2014 20:55:57 GMT -6
1-- And Brown took the 3 that would have sealed it in regulation. The one that was optional, with 20 seconds on the shot clock. Your either hurt or your not. If he was so hurt he couldn't shoot well what was that? This is the second time I have read something along these lines in this thread. It is hard to call Alec out for that shot. I am okay if you want to call Wardle out for that shot but not Brown. That is a set play out of a timeout. It is a play that is hard to stop and almost always results in one of GB's two best scoring options getting the ball in their comfort zone. On that play Sykes is curling around Brown to the hoop and then right after Brown is popping to the 3 point line. If the defense goes with Sykes to stop the cut to the hoop for the dunk then Brown is wide open for the 3. If the defense goes to stop Brown for 3 then Sykes is wide open for the lob at the rim. They have scored a lot on that play and have had some major Sykes highlights from it. Milwaukee took away Sykes so Brown was open on the pop. It was a good look and one that everyone thought was down. If you want to assign blame for shooting with 20 left put it on Wardle and not Brown. He called the play and he tells the guys when to start the play. He could have called for them to hold the ball more before running the play as Milwaukee was not going to foul. For Milwaukee they only needed a stop and a board and they would have had plenty of time to come down and try to score to tie or win in regulation without GB getting another look if GB runs the play later. It seemed like Wardle was going for a 2 for 1 in that situation. The team got two good looks on each possession and didn't make either (I do think Mays was fouled). That is tough to take but that was the game plan from the bench.
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Post by truth on Mar 14, 2014 21:15:15 GMT -6
I too have heard people complain that Browm's shot was too soon. That's their opinion. And not my gripe.
What iI'm saying is that people here and even some at uwgb (not wardle to his credit) are crying that their two best players were hurt. Cut us a break on selection day.
Well wardle played brown 35 minutes and had the ball in his hands for the potential game winner.
You can't have it both ways. If he was so hurt it cost us the game... Why is the game winner designed with him as an option?
I like Wardle and respect brown. But for anybody to whine about injuries is weak
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Mar 14, 2014 21:29:38 GMT -6
I think there is no doubt that the game would have unfolded differently if those guys were not hurt. Note I am not saying for the better, just that it would have been different. They might have won like they did in Milwaukee or they might have gotten beaten badly like the first game in GB. If the selection committee is trying to factor in Embiid's back injury then it should be consistent that they do review injuries for all potential teams as too much money is at stake not to.
For me as a fan I am choosing to hold out hope. Being this close doesn't happen too often for GB. With that said I am not going to throw a fit if they get shut out as GB had their chances but couldn't close out the game.
Back to the Brown play, I will admit I had it going the wrong way but it was still a set play with Sykes declining two screeners trying to go back door with a pop for Alec at the line. In fact coming out of the timeout on tv you can see Wardle draw a line right to where Alec was going to be located. The guys left on the team seem to really like Wardle and he seems to stick with the one's who got them there. A hurt Sykes and Brown is still a pretty good option for this team when you only need one basket. Heck, those guys did get them two looks at the hoop as I thought Mays was going to make a close shot right at the end. Instead of a monster dunk to seal the deal...well we know what happened.
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Post by thetulsawarrior on Mar 14, 2014 21:31:34 GMT -6
Green Bay lost. Their two top players were less than 100%. Life goes on. Congrats to the Panthers.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Oct 31, 2014 21:58:04 GMT -6
I was pretty annoyed with the crowd warning against GB. The guy who threw something on the court was a Milwaukee fan, the security took him out of the seats. The call just went against Milwaukee in favor of GB and the GB crowd gets warned! Pretty lame. What do you expect from Juzenas and Ingram? I noticed that John Higgins and Kipp Kissinger worked the MVC championship game today. Just a good example of where the HL needs to step up. The quality of the game would improve with the quality of the officials. As a fan I shouldn't know who these guys are and yet I do because it is a noticeable difference from the good to average to bad guys that work the league. Not to bring up a bad memory of this game but just to finish my thoughts on HL officials. I was at the Bucks game tonight and Kipp Kissinger was working the game. It is great to see a guy move up to the top level. It also brings home my point about guys like him being so much better at their craft that a novice fan like myself can see it. If there is that big of gap then the HL should look at who they are hiring to work. Also, I saw this week that Bo Borowski will not be working any Big Ten games this year because of seeing confidential info that he wasn't supposed to. That means he might be working more HL games. The thing with Bo is that I think he sucks at his job, I didn't understand how he got to the Big Ten level.
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