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Post by Panther on Apr 4, 2017 20:48:13 GMT -6
Linc Way...
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Post by phearthephoenix on Mar 18, 2019 21:36:05 GMT -6
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Mar 19, 2019 7:30:34 GMT -6
Linc and/or his agent are the best negotiators on the planet. Do not play poker with these guys, they will take your money.
I like the idea of incentive based contracts. I am not sure how I feel about 4th place being enough performance to give any coach a $230,000 incentive extension.
The article indicated his deal was reworked when Guthrie came on board. Perhaps they actually have some protection if he leaves or a smaller buyout for lack of performance.
Without full detail it looks like Darner turned a D2 title into a 5 year deal. He turned an NCAA tournament game into a 2 year extension and used a change of control to get 2 more years. That is 9 years... people bitched about TK rolling over every year. The results are similar, though one guy is more likable from what I can tell.
With that all said I am not mad about this. It certainly shuts down the negative talk to a certain extent. It allows him to focus on building the program. All of that is good. I just worry that until the job pays better it is a stepping stone for coaches with no protection for the school and fans if it goes sour and that doesn't feel great.
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Post by uscg2012 on Mar 19, 2019 8:32:31 GMT -6
It’s a slap in the face to the fans of Green Bay to be rewarded for finishing 4th place. Especially if you take into account his road record and his lack of being able to beat IUPUI and lesser Horizon league teams.
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Post by fansincebuss on Mar 19, 2019 11:20:38 GMT -6
I don't regard renewing the contract for another year as a slap in the face. If you are going to be at the low end of salaries for division one college basketball coaches you have to provide something in return. In this case in is a certain level of security. Anything less than a 4 year contract becomes a problem for recruiting. I had no problem with them rolling over TK's contract and I regard this as something similar. A 4th place finish is upper half of the standings and as already pointed out we don't know the details of any potential buy outs. At least we know that bottom half finishes will not automatically be rewarded.
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Post by phearthephoenix on Mar 19, 2019 13:50:44 GMT -6
My little blurb on the website doesn't have any new information but I did look around for other HL coach salaries and it looks like Linc's salary ranks 8th out of the 10 league coaches. I couldn't find anything more recent on Jason Gardner's salary than 2014 but I doubt he's making more than $230,000. It would be nice if they had any kind of media coverage or fans that might have that info, but alas. (If you're reading this on a phone / tablet it might be easier to hold the device horizontally to read the info) Coach
| School | Base Salary | Source
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| Scott Nagy | Wright St | $502,000 [Source] | 2017 | Mike Davis | Detroit Mercy | $425,000 [Source] | 2018 | Steve McClain | UIC | $397,500 [Source] | 2017 | Pat Baldwin | Milwaukee | $358,000 [Source] | 2018 | Dennis Felton | Cleveland St | $325,000 [Source] | 2017 | John Brannen | N. Kentucky | $300,000 [Source] | 2017 | Greg Kampe | Oakland | $288,000 [Source] | 2016 | Linc Darner | Green Bay | $231,500 [Source] | 2018 | Jarrod Calhoun | Youngstown St | $200,000 [Source] | 2017 | Jason Gardner | IUPUI | $150,000 [Source] | 2014 |
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Post by kmell822 on Mar 20, 2019 19:11:38 GMT -6
I don't regard renewing the contract for another year as a slap in the face. If you are going to be at the low end of salaries for division one college basketball coaches you have to provide something in return. In this case in is a certain level of security. Anything less than a 4 year contract becomes a problem for recruiting. I had no problem with them rolling over TK's contract and I regard this as something similar. A 4th place finish is upper half of the standings and as already pointed out we don't know the details of any potential buy outs. At least we know that bottom half finishes will not automatically be rewarded. Well said.
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Post by phoenixphan87 on Apr 1, 2019 13:58:50 GMT -6
Take this for what it is worth- an twitter account that several coaches and people in the know use to post rumors they have heard. It does make sense geographically if Linc ever leaves to head south.
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Post by yayphoenixyay on Apr 1, 2019 15:44:46 GMT -6
Take this for what it is worth- an twitter account that several coaches and people in the know use to post rumors they have heard. It does make sense geographically if Linc ever leaves to head south. Feel like this would be a lateral move at best, though a likely pay raise.
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Post by Panther on Apr 1, 2019 16:01:23 GMT -6
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Post by thetulsawarrior on Apr 1, 2019 16:41:45 GMT -6
GSU has an interim head coach who is a former star at the school and I suspect there's heavy pressure to change the designation to permanent.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Apr 1, 2019 21:17:05 GMT -6
I am pretty sure scared people at Texas Southern have started this rumor to distract GB from preparing to kick their butts back to Houston.
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Post by uscg2012 on Apr 2, 2019 9:03:22 GMT -6
Don’t really like how Linc is doing this during a tournament run. You want to interview for other programs and advance your career, great, I get that but wait till the season is over.
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Post by Panther on Apr 2, 2019 9:45:29 GMT -6
Don’t really like how Linc is doing this during a tournament run. You want to interview for other programs and advance your career, great, I get that but wait till the season is over. Why do you guys even let Rumors just rumble on? I don't get it. Who would want Georgia State job if they couldn't keep a coach who took them to the NCAA Tournament 2 or last 3 years or something like that. If you can't keep a guy with that type of success what makes anyone else want this job outside of money? Also, the Associate coach been there over 10 years and is a graduate from the school and is probably the front running in the job. Just my thoughts...
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Post by yayphoenixyay on Apr 2, 2019 13:02:21 GMT -6
I’m really not worried about him jumping ship. As has been stated, it seems like they already have a guy in-house. Just because someone linked his name to the job doesn’t mean he even has anything more than a passing interest in it.
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