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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2014 11:07:16 GMT -6
Just looked at the Resch Center website and sure enough the Gamblers are playing there March 7-8, which is the dates of the second round and semifinals of the conference tournament. What a huge failing on the part of the athletic department. I seem to remember this was an issue a few years back when it looked like they might have a chance to host. But everyone knew this season they were going to be the favorites. The school should have made it sure it is available.
It does look like the Resch is available for the championship game if we make it that far. Maybe they would be allowed to play the first two rounds at the Kress Center?
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Post by shooting the J on Feb 9, 2014 11:19:18 GMT -6
Just looked at the Resch Center website and sure enough the Gamblers are playing there March 7-8, which is the dates of the second round and semifinals of the conference tournament. What a huge failing on the part of the athletic department. I seem to remember this was an issue a few years back when it looked like they might have a chance to host. But everyone knew this season they were going to be the favorites. The school should have made it sure it is available. It does look like the Resch is available for the championship game if we make it that far. Maybe they would be allowed to play the first two rounds at the Kress Center? I'm fairly certain the Phoenix have right of first refusal here, so the Gamblers could be the one moving to Brown County Arena. The Kress is way, way to small for the conference tournament.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Feb 9, 2014 11:27:31 GMT -6
Well the game was a tough one to watch. It was great to see 6000 fans in the building but other than that not too much else could be called great.
It is so frustrating watching the ft shooting. Down 10 shooting the bonus and coming up empty was an empty feeling for me.
It was also hard watching GB miss shots at the rim again. When the wide open Mays alley oop didn't go in I started to really worry.
In my novice view I thought uwm used a similar defensive approach that Valpo used which was they really crowded Sykes and Brown with tons of defensive help and really wanted the other guys to beat them. I thought a few times guys who were open weren't ready to make plays. Coach Wardle has been talking a lot about what a good 3 point shot was and Love in particular turned down several. At one point on the bench Vince was yelling to C Love to shoot the ____ ball.
Obviously Jordan Aaron had a monster game, nothing you can do when he is creating space and making those shots. I thought uwm did a great job on the boards, felt like they got a lot of rebounds and that they forced several immediate turnovers after they didn't get some boards.
I know the referee's didn't cost GB the game but my goodness was it bad. Steve Skiles is terrible. I have never liked that guy, he acts like he is a big deal out there. Plus if I have to see Jeff Spedoske over rule a call by Lewis Garretson again it will be none too soon. He had several terrible calls that Garretson let go. Also, I know the elbow contact rule but that was BS and an example of where the rule shouldn't be applied in a hard and fast way. A guy who is 7'1" turns with the ball and elbows a guy who is maybe 5'10". No matter what Alec does his elbow is head high on Aaron. Referee's are paid to make calls, anyone in right mind knows that Alec isn't doing that on purpose and refs should be allowed to call it as such. Heck, the official waited a second to make the call because the foul itself didn't pass the smell test. The delayed response by the official just shows that he called it because he knew he had to but not because it looked intentional.
The road ahead isn't smooth but they still have the lead, they play the teams that are chasing them so they can separate in the standings, they are going to get some rest and while he looks out of shape they are getting a piece back in McKinnie who should help as he rounds in to shape. I don't know if it is at the Kress, the BCA or the Resch during the day but I still expect the tournament to come through GB. The team is too far along in a solid season to let it slip now and I think they snap back quickly from this loss.
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Post by gbbrl97 on Feb 9, 2014 14:38:35 GMT -6
I would think J's assessment of GB's right of first refusal is correct.....I wouldn't think GB Athletics would put themselves in a situation where they may have home court for the HL Tourney and not ensure the Resch is available for them. If somehow they didn't have the foresight, I would rather have it at the Kress for the semifinals......but if GB continues to stumble, then the Resch center availability may be less of an issue.
That was an average UWM team that GB should have easily beaten and took lightly instead.
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Post by FunDmentals on Feb 10, 2014 11:12:29 GMT -6
Watching that game was so painful. The loss is painful in many ways, but here are my list of rants:
1. You lose in front of a big crowd. Way to reward people for finally showing up. Losing wouldn't have been so bad, but they looked awful. 2. UWM may be in this teams head. The way I look at it, they have a bunch of scrappy, less talented players and GB doesn't look like they are able to counter punch. 3. Every team in the Horizon now knows that you can leave Jordan Fouse wide open on every play. Does he practice shooting at all? 4. Vince Garrett needs to play more. This teams needs his toughness and leadership. 5. Carrington Love needs to get his confidence back. He looks tentative to shoot or drive. Someone needs to remind him that he is really good. 6. Losing to UWsluM sucks. I hate everything about that place: their classless fan base, their dopy looking coach, their PG who can't close his mouth, and their ugly bigs who are as dirty as players come. That being said, if GB draws them in the tourney I would expect a loss.
On a separate note, the Flagrant 1 on Alec was a situation where a terrible rule was correctly enforced. However, there were two calls that are explainable. One was a foul call on a fast break where the trail official called a shooting foul after the Milwaukee player missed the shot (there was no contact and it was a delayed call). The second was the hand in the cylinder call. I officiate middle school and lower level high school games, and I would submit a written apology if I blew calls like that. To have D1 NCAA officials screwing that up seems to be a fireable offense IMO.
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Post by Fanforever on Feb 10, 2014 16:11:07 GMT -6
I was am still am pretty disgusted by the loss and was not going to post but had to get this off my chest.
The Phoenix were lucky to be up by one at halftime as they were not playing with the sense of urgency and hustle we have become accustomed to this year. Some of the issues I saw were sloppy passes, late defensive rotation and too much standing around. They also did not attack the boards like they have in the past. Jordan seemed to be upset all game and not playing the way he normally does. Greg Mays has unbelievable talent and should not disappear in games of this magnitude. Another item is that they were not swining the ball. It seemed like everyone would stand there when Keifer had the ball almost like they were waiting for him to score. Also, when Keifer's shot is not falling he needs to look to penetrate and kick it to an open player. Other teams know he is looking to score when driving and have been playing him as such. Alec may have been pushed and prodded more then he would like to but he is good enough to overcome that and quite frankly has to.
I sure hope the coaches view the film and see that the ball movement was stagnant and that Keifer needs to pass a bit more when driving the lane to keep the defense honest. Please do not think I am complaining about Keifer as I am not. A small tweak to his driving the lane will open things up for him.
This team has potential to reach the Big Dance and I just want them to keep winning but there are a couple of things they need to clean up.
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Post by fansincebuss on Feb 10, 2014 23:03:02 GMT -6
Scott Vinci reported today via twitter that the Phoenix do indeed have the rights to the Resch Center. The Gamblers will be moved to the Brown County Arena if need be. Let's hope the Phoenix need the Resch on those dates.
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Post by stillaphoenixphan on Feb 12, 2014 11:22:34 GMT -6
Just my 2 cents but when Alec went out injuried I expected the TEAM to step up. What I've seen is it appears to me at times a lack of hustle (except for the 1st conference loss when we looked confused). Except for our 1st conference loss other teams are just playing better than us. This team has to understand it has a target on their backs and every teams season is made when they can beat us. We need to find ways to win. Alec will be healthy by the tournament but we need that #1 seed! KS has tried but lost balls, poor passing and rebounding by the team has to be corrected. Also at the beginning of the year I said if our FT% doesn't get better it will and now has cost us games. We missed way to many front ends of 1 on 1's. Suck it up men it's not going to get any easier on the road. Get back to the basics and let's get another winning streak started. I do beleive the first 8 teams are all close in talent and UIC is going to suprise someone. Ps I haven't made the last 2 games but the 82 degree weather was nice, and I want to make a game in the middle of March Madness
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Post by PantherU on Feb 12, 2014 12:08:39 GMT -6
It's a moot point now but the Kress would be perfectly fine for the Friday night games.
I've now seen the comment that this team took Milwaukee lightly. If that's the case, you guys have far worse problems than last Saturday. Were it true, you'd have a serious failure by the coaching staff to properly motivate the team. You'd also have a team that cannot motivate themselves - what team can't get up for their arch-rival at home when they barely escaped in the previous game? Either find a better excuse or admit a serious failure by your team and coaches in motivation.
Also to the jackass with the UWsluM insult: you're a real funny guy. You could give UWGB famous alumni Nick Mortensen a run for his money. (Notable alumni? Who is Nick Mortensen?). As for us being in a slum, houses in UWM's neighborhood are valued between 400k on the low end and $5 million on the high end. What is the highest-valued hunting stand in the UWGB "neighborhood?" Yeah, there is crime a mile west of campus. At least we don't have to worry about protecting our female students from our own student-athletes.
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Post by Nix on Feb 12, 2014 13:09:32 GMT -6
It's a moot point now but the Kress would be perfectly fine for the Friday night games. I've now seen the comment that this team took Milwaukee lightly. If that's the case, you guys have far worse problems than last Saturday. Were it true, you'd have a serious failure by the coaching staff to properly motivate the team. You'd also have a team that cannot motivate themselves - what team can't get up for their arch-rival at home when they barely escaped in the previous game? Either find a better excuse or admit a serious failure by your team and coaches in motivation. Also to the jackass with the UWsluM insult: you're a real funny guy. You could give UWGB famous alumni Nick Mortensen a run for his money. (Notable alumni? Who is Nick Mortensen?). As for us being in a slum, houses in UWM's neighborhood are valued between 400k on the low end and $5 million on the high end. What is the highest-valued hunting stand in the UWGB "neighborhood?" Yeah, there is crime a mile west of campus. At least we don't have to worry about protecting our female students from our own student-athletes. Please leave, and don't come back.
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Post by Fanforever on Feb 12, 2014 13:45:23 GMT -6
BKpanther you are way to sensitive as I am guessing he was not talking about the area around the school but only using a derogatory reference to a school we do not like. Nothing different than what is going on in the MKE board. The following is from your board;
For some unexplained reason, i notice a distinct lack of GB fans in this thread. The only one i noticed was gracious in defeat, which is nice. But where are all the SNL-DaBears-Skit-level delusional GB fans who were all over this board after the first Panther-Phoenix game? (That's a rhetorical question, not an invitation...)
Also, how abot the MKE fans at the game that were screaming Alec you suck.... Now I understand he did not have a good game but does he deserve for someone to yell that he sucks. I think not. So before you go throwing stones you may want to look at your own glass house. Oh and last year they were yelling that Keifer sucks and asking if he got his tattoos in prison. Very classy. Oh did I alomst forget that you had a player two years back get a dui and crash his car into a farm field! What did he get suspended, oh wait one game. Again we are entitled to our opinions and don't need an MKE fan telling us what we can and can't say. It is merely an opinion.
So if you want to call someone a jackass you may want to look closer to home. Again just my opinion.
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Post by PantherU on Feb 12, 2014 13:59:59 GMT -6
Yes, because what this board needs is less people. I was only returning fire.
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Post by FunDmentals on Feb 12, 2014 15:06:41 GMT -6
Also to the jackass with the UWsluM insult: you're a real funny guy. You could give UWGB famous alumni Nick Mortensen a run for his money. (Notable alumni? Who is Nick Mortensen?). As for us being in a slum, houses in UWM's neighborhood are valued between 400k on the low end and $5 million on the high end. What is the highest-valued hunting stand in the UWGB "neighborhood?" Yeah, there is crime a mile west of campus. At least we don't have to worry about protecting our female students from our own student-athletes. You seem to be very sensitive about the UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN AT milwaukee. I'm not sure where all the hostility and frustration are coming from. I understand that urban property is usually more highly valued than rural property. That's a pretty toolish argument to make. What's next? "There's more kids who wear North Face at UWm than at Green Bay!" I lived 10 minutes north of Milwaukee for the last 4 years (you know in one of the those places the rich people move so they don't have to actually be in Milwaukee), and I couldn't wait to get out. I'm glad that no athlete at your "higher education" institution ever committed, or was rumored to have commit, any sort of crime. Otherwise, you would look like a hypocrite. Anyways, this forum is about Green Bay Phoenix basketball, and I've had about enough of talking about the Panthers for this month. GB didn't play well. Wardle had a great statement about how this team isn't good enough to win if they don't play their best. Unfortunately, the team is proving his point. They need someone to step up and take some pressure off of Keifer.
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Post by GoPanthers33 on Feb 12, 2014 15:08:15 GMT -6
I really don't understand the animosity on this board.
I have a few friends who go to UWGB and when I go up there and join them for a Phoenix game(Wearing Panthers gear mind you) I have not received anything like what is seen on this board.
On the flip side when they come down and join me at the Cell I have never had them receive any classless remarks directed their way. Maybe we've been lucky and sat by true college basketball die-hards like ourselves who don't see the need for insults.
I realize it's an in-state rivalry so things should get a little tense at times but it's not supposed to be blood and guts here.
Just my $0.02
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Post by PantherU on Feb 12, 2014 15:27:18 GMT -6
This board is run by GB BB is Back. That's why this board is quick to talk trash, they take their cues from him.
What's funny to me is that GB BB was not back until he changed his screen name. J is the key to everything for GB!
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