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Post by kmell822 on Feb 5, 2023 15:21:57 GMT -6
What does being a catalyst mean? :a person or event that quickly causes change or action. the disintegration of the program was a catalyst for reform. In college basketball the catalyst can be a single individual. That includes a coach, player or dare I say booster? In the current landscape, one might say well-funded boosters with well-designed NIL offers are by far the biggest catalyst of all. Boosters and NIL, spot on.
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Post by FiredCoachesPod on Feb 5, 2023 22:01:04 GMT -6
I don't get the hate for Division III coaches. Gary Grzesk, Matt Lewis or Kent Dernbach would all do great in this role. They all have Division I experience and have showed they can coach, recruit and sustain success consistently. Luke Reigel is another guy who would probably do very well at UWGB. The most "make sense" candidate who has ties to the athletic director, was a former head coach and has success over multiple stops as an assistant...Sundance "Sunny" Wicks. Current Bio - gowyo.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/sundance-wicks/2732Northern State Bio - nsuwolves.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/sundance-wicks/780This program needs energy. You can't find a guy in this country with more juice.
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Post by cuchillo on Feb 6, 2023 5:58:04 GMT -6
I don't get the hate for Division III coaches. Gary Grzesk, Matt Lewis or Kent Dernbach would all do great in this role. They all have Division I experience and have showed they can coach, recruit and sustain success consistently. Luke Reigel is another guy who would probably do very well at UWGB. The most "make sense" candidate who has ties to the athletic director, was a former head coach and has success over multiple stops as an assistant...Sundance "Sunny" Wicks. Current Bio - gowyo.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/sundance-wicks/2732Northern State Bio - nsuwolves.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/sundance-wicks/780This program needs energy. You can't find a guy in this country with more juice. Wyoming is 7-15 and 2-8 in the Mountain West right now. Nobody cares about "juice." The fan base wants a competent person with a solid plan to extinguish the dumpster fire. If they have "juice" or "smoke" so be it.
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Post by uscg2012 on Feb 6, 2023 6:10:01 GMT -6
I don't get the hate for Division III coaches. Gary Grzesk, Matt Lewis or Kent Dernbach would all do great in this role. They all have Division I experience and have showed they can coach, recruit and sustain success consistently. Luke Reigel is another guy who would probably do very well at UWGB. The most "make sense" candidate who has ties to the athletic director, was a former head coach and has success over multiple stops as an assistant...Sundance "Sunny" Wicks. Current Bio - gowyo.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/sundance-wicks/2732Northern State Bio - nsuwolves.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/sundance-wicks/780This program needs energy. You can't find a guy in this country with more juice. The only good thing about hiring Sundance would be it would make for an easy Jon Rothstein Quote.
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Post by thetulsawarrior on Feb 6, 2023 8:03:54 GMT -6
Are those videos a trial balloon or a fan looking for an outside the box candidate? I know Wicks looks and sounds like the polar oppose of the vibe Will gives off. No knock to either man intended. I do know many times humans go in an opposite direction from a relationship that didn't work. I would not include or exclude a potential coach based solely on a couple of videos. (Didn't GB hire a former AD that way?)
I mentioned this before -- Tulsa hired some unknown coach from a west Texas JUCO. Nolan Richardson brought five of his players with him and the Golden Hurricane won the NIT in his first year. Al McGuire had a couple of bad years at a place called Belmont Abbey and still Marquette hired him on a recommendation from a Hall of Fame coach and the fact Al's brother was a name in the NBA.
GB needs energy, competence and someone who believes in miracles. All others need not apply.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Feb 6, 2023 8:35:12 GMT -6
The AD is drumming up community support as we speak.
The AD is spending a decent amount of money on a search firm.
The AD is saying in the media that the salary pool is going to jump up to be competitive and open up a bigger pool of candidates.
The AD and former AD have spent 7 figures for guys that don't coach in GB anymore.
If after all of that the AD hires people already in his phone who have not already had wild levels of success as a head coach, I think there would be significant disappointment from the community.
Certainly most of the D3 guys or this Wyoming guy would not signal GB is serious about men's hoops. Any of them may turn out to be great but with everything on the line here I think GB can aim and attain higher.
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Post by gbguy on Feb 6, 2023 8:48:09 GMT -6
The Wyoming guy's resume is a nightmare. He has hardly stayed anywhere more than one or two years. My guess is that his schtick wears people out; especially when results don't follow.
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Post by gbguy on Feb 6, 2023 9:01:01 GMT -6
The AD is drumming up community support as we speak. The AD is spending a decent amount of money on a search firm. The AD is saying in the media that the salary pool is going to jump up to be competitive and open up a bigger pool of candidates. The AD and former AD have spent 7 figures for guys that don't coach in GB anymore. If after all of that the AD hires people already in his phone who have not already had wild levels of success as a head coach, I think there would be significant disappointment from the community. Certainly most of the D3 guys or this Wyoming guy would not signal GB is serious about men's hoops. Any of them may turn out to be great but with everything on the line here I think GB can aim and attain higher. I think a high level assistant with a reputation as a good recruiter would work too.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Feb 6, 2023 9:28:37 GMT -6
The AD is drumming up community support as we speak. The AD is spending a decent amount of money on a search firm. The AD is saying in the media that the salary pool is going to jump up to be competitive and open up a bigger pool of candidates. The AD and former AD have spent 7 figures for guys that don't coach in GB anymore. If after all of that the AD hires people already in his phone who have not already had wild levels of success as a head coach, I think there would be significant disappointment from the community. Certainly most of the D3 guys or this Wyoming guy would not signal GB is serious about men's hoops. Any of them may turn out to be great but with everything on the line here I think GB can aim and attain higher. I think a high level assistant with a reputation as a good recruiter would work too. Certainly a higher level D1 assistant could work. I am only suggesting hiring someone the AD can already contact in his phone like Dernbach or Wicks makes hiring a search firm a waste of money. There are plenty of great candidates with great resumes and an equal ability to execute their plans that will interview because they hired Parker.
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Post by thetulsawarrior on Feb 6, 2023 9:47:44 GMT -6
Look at Buzz Williams resume prior to getting the top job at Marquette. He was constantly changing jobs and even was in the middle of a lawsuit with the school that gave him his first head coaching position. What he was and is is a hyperactive, at times over the top showman. You never know what will work in a specific situation. For Buzz is worked for a while at Marquette and at Virginia Tech. The jury is out at Texas A and M. The guy at Wyoming has a brother in the business who has had several D1 gigs including San Francisco and Pacific University. www.aberdeennews.com/story/sports/2015/07/04/wicks-brothers-joining-forces-at-san-francisco/116898550/A couple of cycles back the one of the former Nix athletic directors was seriously looking at the head coach at Incarnate Word. The coach was a circus showman who had a regular sports talk show in San Antonio. Years ago at Oral Roberts University the hire was a high school coach from suburban LA who had two, 6-10 sons. It didn't work and eventually they got some little know guy whose father was a girls high school basketball coaching legend in Kansas. The first time D1 head coach was named Bill Self. The point -- success and failure can come in a lot of different packages.
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Post by barnzoboy on Feb 6, 2023 10:26:00 GMT -6
All that I'm concerned about is results in the "W" column. All this talk of the showman, hyper-active personality remind me so much of PJ Fleck. Living here in MN (no, I am not a Gopher fan) I get exposed to his schtick a lot. Watching his weekly football show you honestly would not know if the team won or lost the prior week, because he is do dang positive all the time. I suppose this is awesome to have that kind of positivity if you are a player, maybe? But for me, being the half-empty glass guy that I am, it is over the top and becomes extremely annoying. To me, that positivity appears way too much like being content with losing.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Feb 6, 2023 10:36:42 GMT -6
In 2015 little old Green Bay hired the reigning D2 national championship coach.
They are apparently going to be able to pay more money by a wide margin than what Coach Darner made.
Call me crazy but it doesn't seem like we have to settle for anything less than a guy who has some serious accomplishments on his resume.
One season with 18 D2 wins or a couple upper level wiac finishes isn't impressive enough to be on the radar. Again this program managed to hire a national championship winning coach not that long ago.
A well spoken personality is also a requirement beyond winning. The coach in GB absolutely has to be a likeable personality in addition to having basketball knowledge. This community still wants to rally around the program. The coach has to be a visible and positive leader in the community. Unfortunately Linc showed us that winning isn't enough for the fans if they don't feel connected.
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Post by andyz on Feb 6, 2023 21:38:38 GMT -6
Look at what Freddie and staff have done in a short span. There is no way this win happened before coaching change. To have the energy level that existed tonight speaks to the way team has responded. After time out possessions were successful most of the night tonight. Good game plan and in game adjustments. Incredible win playing short handed on the road against a very good opponent. This was fun to watch. My compliments to Freddie. Putting himself in serious position to have “interim” title removed.
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Post by cuchillo on Feb 6, 2023 22:35:46 GMT -6
Putting himself in serious position to have “interim” title removed. No.
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Post by andyz on Feb 6, 2023 23:08:06 GMT -6
Putting himself in serious position to have “interim” title removed. No. Disagree. Freddie can coach and players are obviously responding. If Moon goes a different direction, Freddie will land somewhere else and have success. Bad look for an AD to have a great young coach on staff and go a different direction without giving him serious consideration.
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