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Post by Heartbroken Phoenix Fan on Jan 11, 2020 20:29:24 GMT -6
And people say McClain should be fired? What has Darner done exactly after he got lucky for a few days with Wardles leftovers? Oh, McClain should be fired with all the talent he squandered with UIC, as well. As thankful as I will always be to Linc for finally getting the program over the hump that was probably the worst thing that could have happened to the program long term. That good will is going to buy him 2-3 more years than it should here. Don’t forget they finished fourth in the regular season that year. They’ve never finished above third in a conference that’s getting worse and worse.
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Post by kmell822 on Jan 11, 2020 20:31:35 GMT -6
GB fans truly deserve better than this Linc Darner nonsense. I don't get to see the games living in GA. But based on stats alone, teams playing against us make way too many 3 point shots. Clearly the book on GB is to shoot 3's as we don't appear to defend against. Either this is a talent issue which I do not think, or a coaching thing. You cannot allow teams to continually shoot 40% plus from three land and expect to win. When we lose to teams such as the last 2, something is amiss. I have to say it is coaching either by poor recruiting or by poor schemes. Either way result is the same. As a low level division 1 team, my expectations are not great, but when we lose to bottom UW-M or UIPUI, that says where we are and nothing will change unless players improve or coaching changes.
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Post by uscg2012 on Jan 11, 2020 20:40:43 GMT -6
GB fans truly deserve better than this Linc Darner nonsense. I don't get to see the games living in GA. But based on stats alone, teams playing against us make way too many 3 point shots. Clearly the book on GB is to shoot 3's as we don't appear to defend against. Either this is a talent issue which I do not think, or a coaching thing. You cannot allow teams to continually shoot 40% plus from three land and expect to win. When we lose to teams such as the last 2, something is amiss. I have to say it is coaching either by poor recruiting or by poor schemes. Either way result is the same. As a low level division 1 team, my expectations are not great, but when we lose to bottom UW-M or UIPUI, that says where we are and nothing will change unless players improve or coaching changes. I believe it’s the coaching. The past two years we have been at the bottom of the NCAA in 3 point defense. Currently we are 333 out of 350. That is almost a fireable offense.
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Post by Panther on Jan 11, 2020 20:43:49 GMT -6
You guys realize, we had 5 guys out most of week with Flu symptoms.... Not a lot of energy Did they have the flu against IUPUI? What’s your excuse for that game? I never said excuse loser... I'm stating facts...
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Jan 12, 2020 10:42:31 GMT -6
Obviously I'm disappointed in the result of this game.
Most concerning is not being able to contain guards again.
I can't say I know enough about basketball to know what they want to do but I do pay attention to coach. One thing that I think hurts them on defense from a coaching perspective is that the long leash he gives on offense is also given to certain players with bad defense. He certainly lets guys know when they miss an assignment or a rotation. However, it feels like he only proves his point by taking out rotation guys who make mistakes. Some starters are allowed to make the same mistakes over and over again.
From my view on the couch the season is on the brink, there is no need to reward bad defensive habits any longer. I wouldn't protect offensive efficiency in the face of more losses as the cost.
Also, one thing has changed recently. I'm not saying it's the only factor but they were playing bad, got a little hot streak going and are back to bad again. Something is off to me with how some parts fit together currently.
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Post by fansincebuss on Jan 12, 2020 17:20:40 GMT -6
I am disappointed as well, I did not see the game as granddaughter's 6th grade basketball game along with other granddaughter's gymnastics took precedence. I also caught my grandson's JV game in Eau Claire. I will probably watch a replay of the Phoenix game tomorrow.
There is no team I would rather see the Phoenix beat more than Milwaukee. Sounds like there was a lot of illness this week, stuff happens. Today UIC beats Wright state, Purdue beats Michigan State by 29 and Minnesota beats Michigan. When I figure this game out I will let you know.
Looks like the UIC coach deserves an extension on his contract.
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Post by uscg2012 on Jan 12, 2020 17:28:47 GMT -6
I am disappointed as well, I did not see the game as granddaughter's 6th grade basketball game along with other granddaughter's gymnastics took precedence. I also caught my grandson's JV game in Eau Claire. I will probably watch a replay of the Phoenix game tomorrow. There is no team I would rather see the Phoenix beat more than Milwaukee. Sounds like there was a lot of illness this week, stuff happens. Today UIC beats Wright state, Purdue beats Michigan State by 29 and Minnesota beats Michigan. When I figure this game out I will let you know. Looks like the UIC coach deserves an extension on his contract. There’s a little more to it than “stuff happens” GB is ranked 343 out of 350 in 3 point defense.
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Post by gbbrl97 on Jan 13, 2020 13:51:52 GMT -6
Right now, this team can't guard a folding chair. Even when you try to run an up-tempo offense and a pressing defense (errrrr.......RP40), there has to be effort by the players but sound principles by the coaches. Right now, we have neither.
God, this team is painful to watch.
At this rate, this team will be the worst since TK's first season.
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Post by uscg2012 on Jan 13, 2020 14:12:27 GMT -6
I fully expect we will win our next two games and then go on the road and lose the next two. In a Linc Darner special, never consistent enough to consistently win.
There needs to be a real evaluation this off season if this program is going in the right direction. A firing won’t happen but it needs to be known he has pressure on him to be more successful.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Jan 13, 2020 15:14:21 GMT -6
There is physical effort by the players but there isn't execution on defense. The guys are usually playing hard and fast.
In the first half against UWM GB brought their big man out to hedge ball screens and needed other guys to rotate over to cover up the big man rolling. For the most part they did this and GB's big was able to contain drives while recovering back to his man. At times they got mixed up and got beat somewhere and didn't get the help they should have. At other times guys like Lucas made big time plays to show why he was a high level recruit.
In the second half they switched a lot of screens instead. IMO this was even worse. A few times guys got caught staying with their man and didn't switch or ended with Lucas and Roy on someone they could beat fairly easy. Anyway, from my perspective GB had a harder time getting stops, gave up some easy stuff and didn't rebound well because they were scrambling out of position a lot.
I share this because I agree with everyone else that the defense isn't good. However, I don't believe it is a physical lack of effort but a strategy and mental execution exercise for the players and coaching staff alike.
For me personally I hate the way they played in the second half much more than the first. In the second half that switching style is played with more athletic guys but also guys who have shown they are more prone to making mistakes. In the first half some of the mistakes were made by guys who don't get subbed out because they are big time scorers.
It sucks that Pipes hurt his foot against IUPUI and had the flu last week. He looked like he didn't have his legs under him. He is a big weapon on both ends normally that clearly wasn't right in this game.
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Post by gbbrl97 on Jan 14, 2020 9:20:31 GMT -6
Should GB go to a 2-3 zone full time? With the long-armed, mid-size athletes on the roster, and if there is physical effort by the players, this may be better fit. I know zones aren't sexy, but the RP in RP40 is non-existent.......Unless the RP stands for relentless points (by the opposition).
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Post by uscg2012 on Jan 14, 2020 9:53:40 GMT -6
Should GB go to a 2-3 zone full time? With the long-armed, mid-size athletes on the roster, and if there is physical effort by the players, this may be better fit. I know zones aren't sexy, but the RP in RP40 is non-existent.......Unless the RP stands for relentless points (by the opposition). Haha relentless points! Spot on
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