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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Jan 20, 2019 18:14:00 GMT -6
It is never too early to get talking about a big game. It is safe to say this will be the most important test of the team this year.
The game is on Thursday the 24th at 6pm CST on ESPN+.
A win here makes things really interesting. A loss and the team is probably playing for a home game in the conference tournament as a best case scenario.
Darner said the team needs a split on this trip. I say BS, this team needs a sweep. They have the horses, now put together some big wins.
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Post by phearthephoenix on Jan 20, 2019 18:57:13 GMT -6
As someone mentioned in another thread this game will be broadcast on Fox Sports Wisconsin, looks like they are simulcasting the Fox Sports Ohio feed. Good chance to get some eyeballs from casual sports fans and random bars around the state.
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Post by uscg2012 on Jan 20, 2019 20:06:40 GMT -6
How about Linc Darner figure out how to get his team to play better defense. Currently they are 345 out of 351 in team defense. Now that’s terrible.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Jan 23, 2019 10:21:09 GMT -6
With the weather in the Midwest of late I hope the team doesn't incur any trouble getting to NKU. A game like this doesn't need any distractions.
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Post by uscg2012 on Jan 23, 2019 19:50:31 GMT -6
Looks like the team landed in Cincinnati safely. 👍🏻 Time to prove a point tomorrow on the road.
Go Phoenix!
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Post by Heartbroken Phoenix Fan on Jan 24, 2019 18:43:10 GMT -6
Embrace the suck.
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Post by uscg2012 on Jan 24, 2019 19:01:40 GMT -6
RP40 got us to one NCAA tournament which I will always remember cherish.
The 4th year of RP40 is tough to watch because it does not work. Sorry to beat the dead horse on this one. If we are ok with finishing in the middle of the pack then ok let’s stick with RP40. If we want higher aspirations then change needs to be made.
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Post by phearthephoenix on Jan 24, 2019 20:09:16 GMT -6
I think NKU is the best team in the league so it’s kind of hard to overreact to losing to them on the road but that was a really disappointing performance. NKU’s points in the paint (56) was almost more than GB’s entire offensive output.
A win on Saturday would salvage the trip but another loss would really hinder any chance of hosting a first round tournament game. Hopefully they can figure out some kind of interior defense otherwise Loudon Love is going to have an even better game than Vogt for NKU did.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Jan 24, 2019 23:15:41 GMT -6
It isn't the loss but how they lost. This game had a lot of hero ball, a lot of out of control players and a total inability to defend or rebound.
NKU has a 7'1" reserve totally control the game at both ends. The GB response was to play a bunch of 6'6" guys who couldn't stop him, couldn't drive past him and couldn't pull him to the perimeter because they can't shoot. That is both a strategy fail and a recruiting fail.
When McDonald was healthy they were switching so easily and he ended up exploiting mismatches. It was like they didn't treat him as the best player in the league, they acted like he was a scrub. That is a strategy fail.
There is no shame in losing to NKU but there is shame in how these guys are asked to play together.
The program is on a slippery slope, Coach Darner needs to step up all aspects of his game moving forward. I personally find this product unacceptable and it can't stay that way for long. The few people who still care will find something better to do if they aren't going to attempt to build a D1 roster and play a D1 game.
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Post by phoenixphan87 on Jan 25, 2019 7:54:56 GMT -6
Credit to Vogt- he moved well enough for a 7'1" kid at a mid major. But this showed the lack of coaching and lack of recruiting. Kenneth Lowe and Randy Berry are two names from the past that come to mind that would not have allowed Vogt to go off like that. I will go as far to say a project like Uwaidae would have protected the basket last night better than what we have right now. GB does not have a guy like that to defend the basket. McDonald goes down and the guys end up stuck on 20 points playing 1 on 5 ball and taking poor shots. The record is misleading- this team has not been very competitive at all in many contests and pulled a rabbit out of their hats to beat a 0-8 Horizon League team in Cleveland State at home.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Jan 25, 2019 9:17:17 GMT -6
As I woke up this morning and thought about the game there were a few other things that bothered me.
One, I thought the officiating in this game was very loose. A lot of body contact that normally is a foul wasn't, on both ends. I think Tank should file a police report, he drew a lot of contact in the first half and had nothing to show for it. I thought the loose ball foul on McNair was questionable and the offensive foul on McCloud in the dribble hand off was a stretch as well. That didn't lose the game for GB, just added fuel to the fire of making this game almost unwatchable.
Two, I know it is a product of the RP40 system but some guys probably shouldn't be asked to do as much as the do. For example McNair forced three turnovers that led to run outs last night which is awesome. However, they only scored points on one of them, an assist to Sandy for a dunk. The other two became a jump ball that went to NKU and a miss. While I love the effort and love rewarding guys, on the season the percentages don't seem good letting a big man handle the ball in the open court. For every great play there are just as many if not more that don't lead to points. I have to ask, is that really smart? If you philosophy is to force turnovers well then you better being getting a lot of points off of turnovers.
Three, when Vogt was taking over the game in the first half I thought Manny and Cody had very quick hooks. It isn't the easiest thing to come in cold against a guy who is going off. Let them get in a flow and see if they can match up. In the second half Manny did a lot better job on Vogt but the damage was already done and the game was out of control. I totally agree with the comment about Lowe and Berry from above. I see a guy like Luke Haasl from Oshkosh West as the type of development player that GB should look at. Yeah he isn't great now. However, he is 6'10" and can shoot from 3 point range so if finding big men is hard then take a chance on the guy who is an hour away. Redshirt him if you have to but some more serviceable big men are needed long term. If you are never going to play guys like Parham then take some risk on development players. GB was out rebounded by 16 last night. Sandy had 9 of the teams 28 rebounds. Last year Small was the best rebounding player on the team. It doesn't look great going forward on the glass right now. I am just totally sick of watching GB getting crushed on the glass. They can't run if they can't close out defensive stands.
Alright, I think I am over it now. On to Wright State. They need a better effort against the two big guys for WSU. Also, Wampler is coming off of a terrible game. You know he is going to want to fix that, especially against GB.
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Post by uscg2012 on Jan 25, 2019 9:30:27 GMT -6
I don’t even know how to defend the coaching staff anymore. It was evident last night NKU had a plan and stuck to it while Green Bay did not. As someone mentioned before we played hero ball and that got me thinking. The NKU announcers had mentioned NBA scouts were in the building to look at Sandy Cohen. It was pretty much a Sandy Cohen show for Green Bay, he scored 19 points but turned the ball over numerous times and took many outrageous shots. Maybe he was pressing because of scouts in the stands?
We just aren’t going to win very many games like that and it is starting to show.
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