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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Mar 20, 2016 10:55:17 GMT -6
With the season over and most of the jobs that will be available already known, I don't see a lot for Linc. I still think he should get an interview at UCF but taking a 27 point loss in the big dance may have cooled a few others that may have interested. Although a blow out loss didn't hurt the Stony Brook guy get the Rutgers job.
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Post by thetulsawarrior on Mar 20, 2016 13:00:38 GMT -6
Please, enough already. Darner's career does not reflect a Buzz Williams commitment level. Lets enjoy the after glow of the season.
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Post by FSCMocFan on Mar 20, 2016 17:39:40 GMT -6
Please, enough already. Darner's career does not reflect a Buzz Williams commitment level. Lets enjoy the after glow of the season.
Seconded.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Mar 20, 2016 18:16:24 GMT -6
I'm very happy to have Linc but keep in mind this is a GB Phoenix basketball discussion board. The future of the coaching staff is a topic that is fair game.
The last two coaches left after back to back 22 and 24 win seasons respectively. They left for teams with more resources and higher salaries.
Then there is Linc winning 23 games. Doing so puts him on the radar of other schools, that is a fact of life for GB fans. It's okay because it means the team is winning.
Keeping up on who may be interested in him is relevant to the discussion and history of the program. Even MEG acknowledges she is prepared for the topic. So enough already of censoring the discussion.
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Post by FSCMocFan on Mar 20, 2016 19:04:23 GMT -6
Nobody's censoring anything.
Since we're all for opinions mine on this matter is that it has been, and continues to be, ridiculous. And I know Linc better than any of ya.
I for one am looking forward to what's to come. My opinion is that just like this season was better that anyone expected (including me) what's coming will also exceed expectations.
I have real issues to worry about, like an FSC team that is now in the gutter (and I hope it's just the team and not the program) and getting Princeton back in the NCAA tourney (where we belong) rather that having to live vicariously through Yale (ugh). To me (opinion, again) any possibility of Linc or Small leaving the program are infinitesimally minute. I'm not concerned that either will happen one whit.
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Post by shooting the J on Mar 21, 2016 5:37:31 GMT -6
Linc interviewed numerous times to try to leave Florida Southern. The only reason he stayed that long was nobody would hire him. He left St Joe's at first chance. If someone calls, he'll interview.
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Post by FSCMocFan on Mar 21, 2016 8:05:50 GMT -6
Linc interviewed numerous times to try to leave Florida Southern. The only reason he stayed that long was nobody would hire him. He left St Joe's at first chance. If someone calls, he'll interview.
What an interesting way to express whatever it is you are trying to say. However, what you did state in plain language is absurd. There is no indication that what you say above is true - in fact it is borderline scurrilous.
I don't know a lot about Linc at St. Joseph's (IN) and what he encountered there other than the fact that his tenure was four years culminating in success. He moved upward to a better position. I have no information on who approached who.
As for FSC, Linc's successor was hired from a field of over 300 applicants. The job isn't exactly a "make do until something better comes along" position. Linc was on board at FSC for nine years.
fscmocs.com/sports/mbkb/2014-15/releases/2015050115nf1o
Linc's predecessor at FSC was fired. Tony Longa was a protégé of Gordon Gibbons and hired as his successor:
"Longa, 40, started as an assistant under Gordon Gibbons before taking over at the start of the 2000-01 season. In six seasons, Longa accumulated a 125-52 record. Under his guidance, FSC won 20 games four times, had four appearances in the Sunshine State Conference Tournament championship game and three bids to the NCAA Tournament. The Mocs won the SSC regular-season title twice and the SSC Tournament twice.
Longa earned his 100th win on Dec. 16, 2004, matching Gibbons as the fastest coach in SSC history to reach that number (129 games) and his .706 winning percentage is the highest among current SSC coaches.
The last two years, however, saw the Mocs finish 17-11 in 2004-05 (tied for fourth in the conference with an 8-8 mark) and 16-12 this past season (sixth in the SSC at 7-9)."
Not exactly a slouch, but not good enough. People were upset when Longa was fired. Following FSC Longa was the AD at Lakeland H.S. (a sports powerhouse) for three years before resigning and becoming the basketball coach at Kathleen H.S. (Lakeland area). His reasons for leaving Lakeland H.S. were political and not related to his competence.
Gordon Gibbons is a legend: www.peachbelt.com/sports/mbkb/2012-13/releases/20130130gibbons www.collegeinsider.com/belzer/nond1.html
Point is, nobody wants out of FSC.
Will Linc Darner eventually leave Green Bay? If he does for you what you want him to do the answer is inevitably: YES. Is his departure imminent? Is it something he is actively pursuing?: Highly, highly unlikely. If a Power 7 conference team wants to interview him he'd likely take the interview. (I would. I think anybody would.) However, interviewing is not equal to departing, or for that matter even actively seeking to depart.
Please enjoy Linc while you have him.
I'll go back to reading the MKE dirt now...
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Mar 21, 2016 16:24:44 GMT -6
For the record Linc called FSC, he noticed the job was available online. The baseball coach called him back within 15 minutes.
I don't think he is actively or even casually looking for another job. I am of the opinion that he did a fantastic job in year one with GB and the rest of the basketball community knows this as well. He coached his way into earning the right to have his name associated with other jobs.
Moc, let me ask you two questions. First, if you were Danny White at UCF would you look at Linc? If you were Linc and received that call, wouldn't you at least listen? I think the answer to both of those is yes. It is worth watching since it is such a layup for UCF, if they were smart they would have interest in Linc. In my opinion it is the only job out there right now that isn't a reach on either side.
I want him to stay and I believe he wants that as well. I wouldn't be surprised if 5 years of Linc builds this into a Northern Iowa type fan following and financial backing. GB wants a winner, I think he can do that and then let MEG shake out the money to build a program that will be hard for him to leave.
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Post by FSCMocFan on Mar 21, 2016 19:36:32 GMT -6
For the record Linc called FSC, he noticed the job was available online. The baseball coach called him back within 15 minutes.
That baseball coach was Pete Meyer, who is now the Athletic Director and Dean of Wellness. He is also a super nice guy, who, among other things has extended personal kindnesses to both my father and myself. Florida Southern runs a wide ranging and accomplished athletic program and Pete is simply outstanding.
That he did. No doubt. That doesn't mean he is seeking anything at this point in time.
Florida Technological University, now known as University of Central Florida, is the largest university in the US by undergraduate enrollment. (Yup, it is so.) UCF is not a stranger to us. In fact they were a frequent opponent (before they graduated to D1) as charter member (in 1975) of the then basketball only Sunshine State Conference along with Florida Southern and four other schools. UCF had a pretty good basketball team when they were in D2. They departed the SSC long before Linc's arrival.
sunshinestateconference.com/sports/2015/7/29/ABOUT_THE_SSC.aspx?
Danny White is a stranger. He was brought in to straighten out a mess, starting with the football team following it's fall from near greatness. UCF is now, and has been for many years, a football school. Basketball not so much for quite a while now. I suppose that's fair - Florida is a football state. Basketball here, particularly at the secondary level, is treated worse than an orphaned stepchild. There are a ton of good basketball players in Florida, but try to find a coherent schedule of the week's high school games or a story on the outcome of a game. You won't find the schedule and if there's a story it will be on page 6 of the sports section behind the H.S. football coverage - even in February. I once had to call the headquarters of the FHSAA to get an answer to a simple question about the state basketball tournament - an answer I should have been able to easily find in my local newspaper.
In my view the basketball head coach position at UCF is problematic - one I would personally be very wary of.
Were I Danny White I might look at Linc. I don't know where the man's mind is at so I can't say he would/will with any certainty.
Would Linc take the call? I'm sure he would. Would anything come of it? That's hard to say.
Meanwhile, taking a call is no indication of a desire or willingness to leave. AD's and basketball coaches take all kinds of calls all the time. It doesn't really signify anything.
Now you're talking! This is where I think we're going and this is where I want the thing to go.
Linc may have built a team, but the point is to build a program! I mean the type of program that players will want to come to Green Bay to be a part of. In my mind that's a much larger challenge than building a team, but one that Linc is capable of meeting and up for.
If Linc can do that at Green Bay (and generate a worthy successor to maintain it) think of how valuable he would then be to a Power 7 conference school. When he does leave Green Bay I want it to be on those terms and I want every one of you following his future success the way I do now.
GO PHOENIX! (And I mean it, damn it!)
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Post by thetulsawarrior on Mar 21, 2016 19:41:01 GMT -6
Former Stanford coach Johnny Dawkins is in the mix at Central Florida, sources told ESPN.
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Post by FSCMocFan on Mar 21, 2016 19:49:45 GMT -6
Former Stanford coach Johnny Dawkins is in the mix at Central Florida, sources told ESPN.
Johnny Dawkins has the type of profile I find makes sense for this position. I could easily see UCF making that move.
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Post by phoenixphan87 on Mar 24, 2016 9:47:33 GMT -6
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Post by thetulsawarrior on Mar 24, 2016 12:04:57 GMT -6
Like a dozen others?
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Apr 2, 2016 12:01:46 GMT -6
Johnny Dawkins to UCF, yuck. If he can't win at Stanford he isn't likely to win at UCF. They let a Nike and Duke connection rule their search. Good luck. It did look like Linc was on the UCF radar as a backup plan, perhaps similar to being on the Pitt radar as a backup discussion.
Also, Stanford hiring Jerod Haase doesn't inspire me as an outsider.
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Post by PantherU on Apr 2, 2016 16:24:30 GMT -6
I think Linc (haha) is there for the foreseeable future. If GB had beaten A&M or come close, that might have been different.
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