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Post by uscg2012 on Jan 20, 2020 10:56:53 GMT -6
Now a game like this puts me on edge, its a game we should probably win but after a long 5 game home stand I am not quite sure which team will show up on the road.
Its a great chance for Green Bay to separate themselves from the bottom half of the Horizon league. I cant say I know anything about Cleveland State but it seems Coach Gates is doing a pretty impressive job so far.
Wont be an easy game by any means but hope Green Bay comes out ready to go. Cant go in the hole big like they did against Oakland and Detroit. Lot harder to come back on the road.
Go Phoenix!!
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Post by gbbrl97 on Jan 21, 2020 12:27:37 GMT -6
With this team, who knows. Can beat NKU on the road one day, then lose to IUPUI at home the next......
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Jan 21, 2020 13:53:58 GMT -6
Cleveland State comes into this game on a three game losing streak. In fairness two of those were to WSU and NKU on the road. At home they are 4-4 overall and 2-1 in league play. Their kenpom rating is #316. The Wolstein Center is a huge building with seating for 13,000 people. However, CSU has drawn less than 1700 for most of their home games and they have played some decent teams and regional rivals like DePaul, Toledo, Robert Morris and Youngstown State. The environment itself shouldn’t be too difficult for GB to play in. Either way with YSU and CSU hosting GB and Milwaukee there is a chance for teams in this cluster to get some space in the league standings.
The book on CSU is they are a bad offensive team that plays good defense. The bad offense is ranked #328 in the KenPom. They don’t play at a particularly high tempo, currently #203. Now anything is possible with GB’s defense but you will be hard pressed to find a worse shooting team than CSU. AS a team they shoot 41% from the field, 27.7% from three and 66% from the free throw line. What is even more interesting in these numbers is that only take about 25% of their shots from 3 point range, even inside the arc they don’t really shoot it that well. As a team they have more turnovers than assists by a wide margin. Guys will make mistakes and miss shots if you play hard and smart against them.
The CSU defense is ranked #255 in Kenpom. They play some man, some 2-3 zone and some matchup zone from what I can see. They play hard on this end of the court as they force teams into turnovers. Teams have more turnovers than assists against CSU. A few bad losses have skewed some of the numbers but given the offensive issues they still are outscored by about 10 points per game even with a defense that plays hard and forces mistakes.
The wildcard to me is their size. Guys like Eichelberger, Patton and Hill are thick. While Deante Johnson is long. GB doesn’t really have guys built like these guys. CSU is negative 2 on the glass for the year so that still gives GB a window of hope to not get eaten up inside.
Individually they have two solid players in Al Eichelberger and Torrey Patton. Eichelberger is a big banger inside with limited range. He is averaging 14 and 7. He has a ton of offensive rebounds, GB will need to get a body on him. Patton is from the same high school at Amari Davis. He is the only guy with decent shooting numbers. He averages 11 and 5 but was recently the Horizon League Player of the Week so he is coming on strong after a slow start due to injuries.
Gomillillion and Beaudion are scrappy players. Nice pieces but shouldn’t individually beat you with shooting at least. Though Gomillion can really finish at the rim.
I think CSU is a team that shouldn’t beat anyone but does because of teams overlooking them and not understanding how hard they play. Nobody says GB has to start slow every game. This would be a good time for GB to be ready to roll at the tip. A big lead early might be hard for CSU to come back from with their offense.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Jan 23, 2020 16:48:29 GMT -6
If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is there does it make a sound? By the same token if a basketball game is played and nobody comments about it online did it really count?
Lets get a win and some mojo back on this board!
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Jan 24, 2020 6:47:02 GMT -6
Never a doubt.
CSU was lights out from the free throw line, based on percentages they scored 8 more points than they normally would.
Edwin Young as a ref is trash. Every time he works a GB game it is the same. GB can't get a call and the opponent shoots free throws all game. CSU was at the line way more than they should have been and then made an unreal amount of the ft's.
That is the 4th road win of the year. Also, the guys showed discipline to not jack shots down the stretch and ran a fair amount of clock.
Onto YSU.
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Post by Heartbroken Phoenix Fan on Jan 24, 2020 7:16:26 GMT -6
Linc “1-1 on the road” Darner will be pleased. Can’t believe he publicly says that. Loser mentality.
This team always plays well in Cleveland St and struggled at YSU. It’s pretty easy to see/predict the next 3 games. Loss then they will spilt the NKU/Wright St home tilt likely beating WSU. They need to go 2-1 in those 3 games not 1-2 but knowing Lincs teams we’ve seen this movie before.
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Post by phoenixphan87 on Jan 24, 2020 11:03:11 GMT -6
Glad that good McCloud showed up last night. His three point play late saved us from an embarrassing meltdown. GB is a much better team than the makeshift roster CSU has put together this year- cudos to Coach Gates on getting them competitive.
Green Bay has top 4 talent and needs to keep finding ways to win close games to separate themselves from the middle/lower level of this league. Time to finally play well in Youngstown.
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