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Post by gbalum2007 on Apr 21, 2015 7:42:40 GMT -6
Not sure if anyone saw this, but our favorite former beat writer tweeted that he will not be buying season tickets because his "buddy" Gary Grzesk didn't get hired. I would have viewed that as a strike against GG. Here's my problem with this: you guys are always bagging on Rob, who was just doing his job. There's nothing wrong with his reporting on the Wardle, and if there were he'd have been fired by the GBPG and/or sued by Wardle. Before the Wardle scandal, you guys didn't like Rob because he wasn't spending time promoting the program. But that's not his job. You guys have had Andrew Gavin, who has been a cheerleader covering the program, and expected Rob to be the same. But that's not what Rob's job was at the PG. Gavin's job is SID at the university, it IS his job to be a cheerleader. The beat writer isn't supposed to be a fan, they're supposed to cover everything objectively. It's long been the opinion of the writers across the conference (I'm not including myself but I'm with them) that Rob Demovsky was one of the best to ever cover a Horizon League program. It's obvious why he got picked up by ESPN - he's damn good at what he does. One would think now, of all times, is when you guys can take off the Wardle blinders and see the guy for what he really is. Look what he's done to Corn - that should be all you guys need to know about the kind of guy Wardle is. I'm sorry for the rant. I know this is your board and you guys hate when I come lecture you. But I've just had it up to here with all the crap that's been flung Rob's way. I'll pretty much echo what GBPHoenix1 said, but you are right. During the TK days and the coaching search, Demovsky was (and actually still is) very good at what he does. But this vitriol he has towards the program since his buddy left and he had a falling out with Wardle is petty and borderline internet troll-like. He throws shade at the program at every opportunity when his opinion doesn't matter, but as GBPhoenix1 said, he uses his platform, that he has built as one of the better Packers beat writer, to tear it down.
He says it's embarrassing that area players leave to schools out of the area (even players such as Matt Heldt and Sandy Cohen, who GB had zero chance of getting). They hire a new coach who Rob probably knows nothing about and says he won't be buying season tickets because his other buddy didn't get the job. No one should care, but when someone with a national platform bashes the program, it indeed makes everyone look bad.
He basically acts like a jilted ex.
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Post by thetulsawarrior on Apr 21, 2015 8:19:12 GMT -6
Rob was caught in a no win situation covering the allegations of abuse by Wardle. It was his job to cover the story and the allegations (true or not) were not a good reflection on Wardle. Brian was PO'ed and fans were PO'ed by the Press Gazette's coverage. Demovsky became a target and didn't like the fan invasion, from his professional life into his personal life. Who would?
If you go back and read Demovsky's stories there was clearly no malicious intent. In the wake of the investigation both Demovsky and Wardle were changed. Rob apparently has never forgiven the Nix fans who gave him heat and Brian never forgave Demovsky for doing the reporting in the first place.
It's time for both gentlemen to get over it. Wardle seems to have a future in the business and needs to genuinely process the lessons learn and he was not without fault. There was and perhaps still are maturity issues. Demovsky needs to understand that only a small percentage of Phoenix fans got in his face over the investigation coverage. Since leaving the PG his public postings on the Nix program have made him look petty and vindictive.
Rob is a fine reporter and writer. I'd like to see him write some comments about his covering the abuse investigation, the personal fall out his family experienced and what he feels were the lessons learned by all those involved. It would go a long way in the healing process. One other thing, the cryptic comments need to stop it makes you look like a small talent. You are a much bigger talent and person.
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Post by basketballfan14 on Apr 21, 2015 9:37:19 GMT -6
Darner could have hired Gard as an assistant and you would still question it. You clearly will always have something negative to say about Darner due to him getting it above your buddy. I fully trust what Darner is doing. He knows that the hell he is doing. He will be successful here! The guy hasn't even been on campus for a full week and you already have full trust in him? Lmao, yes, because everyone in an authority position is ALWAYS RIGHT and NEVER MAKES A POOR DECISION. Once again, it is YOU who cannot let it go about Grzesk, let bygones be bygones and focus on the here and now. I'm sure you know absolutely nothing more about Swank than I do (from his brief bio) and you're already saying he's a terrific hire because Linc thinks so. All I said was he has a ton to prove, not that he doesn't have potential. You should choose your arguments/battles more wisely I trust him more than I would have trusted GG is what I should say. Could you please point me to the post where I said Swank was a "terrific hire". You will have a hard time finding it bud. ....And I do choose my arguments/battle wisely, that is why I am arguments/battling with you obviously!
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Post by phoenixphan87 on Apr 21, 2015 13:58:44 GMT -6
encouraging tweet from Carrington Love
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Post by phoenixphan87 on Apr 24, 2015 9:06:20 GMT -6
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Post by basketballfan14 on Apr 24, 2015 12:18:54 GMT -6
Solid list, I really like Linc but Steele or Konkol would have been a solid consolation prize. I am really surprised Diener does not make the finalist list but GG does. Edit: If Pat Miller was interested, I am confused why he would get a solid look either. Maybe he was and maybe he didn't interview well, but seems strange.
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Post by Heartbroken Phoenix Fan on Jun 4, 2020 19:20:38 GMT -6
I don't want to rain on the parade but right now I am happy that Darner is not officially the coach. I know it is crazy to give a cold shoulder to a guy who just coached his way to the D2 national title. I think we can all agree that is impressive. I am sour on it based on some stats that I don't like. Florida Southern took 39% of their shots from 3 point land. They took more 3 pointers than free throws. They were out rebounded, allowed a lot of points and had a defensive field goal percentage of 43.2% which was mid pack in their league. From what I can tell Darner's teams are really effective at out scoring their opponent. That is a big departure from the past success under Bennett or Wardle. With the remaining roster that seems like a big rebuild is in the future. That high scoring and lack of defense combination doesn't interest me with Kampe with Oakland and it didn't bring home the big wins with Coack K while at GB. In Darner's defense he did beat Rollins College twice this past year which is more than we can say for someone else... My bottom line is I fear Darner's teams will leave me wanting a big rebound or defense stop. I fear in crunch time I will be left to just pray for 3's to fall in. It might have a similar feeling to be a Milwaukee Panthers fan. Look who was right? Fun to read some of these comments knowing there’s another coaching search going on! Whatever happened to Joe Wolf anyway?
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Post by Heartbroken Phoenix Fan on Jun 4, 2020 19:40:16 GMT -6
What in Pete's column was outstanding? I agree to an extent with the differences in budgets, but I assume Linc knows the difference. I assume you wanted GG for the job since you liked Pete's column. There is no logical reason that GG would have been chosen as the coach over the other top 3 or 4 candidates (resume speaking). He wins during the regular season in the Midwest conference (lowly D3 conference) but chokes in March every year. Do you want somebody who cannot win in March as the coach? If he does not win in D3, I doubt he wins in D1 basketball. There is a reason GG has been passed on twice now by two different administrations. Also, If Linc did not get the job, I could name at least 2 other candidates I would have rather seen get the nod (Diener or Miller). I think MEG made a solid hire, it is her butt on the line too, you think she would be dumb enough to put the wrong person in the driver seat? If you know anything about the D3 tournament, you'd realize private schools rarely win. The tuition difference versus publics is a huge obstacle. No matter, GG now has the athletes he needs to take St Norberts to the next level. Freshman Devalk and sophomore Terrance Garner are the type of athletes Gary needs to compete at the higest level. His resume will be ready by the time of the next Green Bay opening. [b Nope.
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