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Post by yayphoenixyay on Feb 4, 2023 14:21:01 GMT -6
Losing by 15 against a 3-21 team might be the lowest point in the history of this program Also agree, I would like to think there would be some improvement from the beginning of the year to the end of the year. Doesn't appear to be the case. Now it is tough with an acting coach, plus really can't change the system this far into the season. I hope the Nix can hold onto the incoming 3 ballers that have committed, as well as some of the current team - Meyer and Short in particular. Yes there are others, but it is a big mans game and gotta keep the height that you have. It is rock bottom no doubt. Come on, how could you possibly be overlooking Brock?! In all seriousness, I have genuinely never seen worse basketball at the college level. It looked like it was the first time some of the guys had even seen a basketball before. Just very simple, basic things I could see my seven year old niece execute weren’t getting done here. Basketball IQ be damned, even just general spatial awareness was nowhere to be found. I’m sort of at a loss, the home loss to RMU was not the lowest point, going into “The Jungle” and getting blown out is.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Feb 4, 2023 15:38:19 GMT -6
I'm genuinely surprised that most posters think this is rock bottom. Based on what we watched today it is possible it still gets worse from here.
Somehow they were down to 9 players and a few of those have no business playing in a D1 rotation.
I can unfortunately see it getting worse. The free fall to 30 & 363 carries on and we can't rule out some more lows we never thought were possible.
I hate what is going on. The only positive is that this is giving a head start on the future. Unfortunately for those that wanted this to happen in this way the current product is far worse than before and I'm not surprised by that.
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Post by Heartbroken Phoenix Fan on Feb 4, 2023 15:53:27 GMT -6
I'm genuinely surprised that most posters think this is rock bottom. Based on what we watched today it is possible it still gets worse from here. Somehow they were down to 9 players and a few of those have no business playing in a D1 rotation. I can unfortunately see it getting worse. The free fall to 30 & 363 carries on and we can't rule out some more lows we never thought were possible. I hate what is going on. The only positive is that this is giving a head start on the future. Unfortunately for those that wanted this to happen in this way the current product is far worse than before and I'm not surprised by that. How is this any worse than Will Ryan coaching? It’s the same exact thing. I wasn’t expecting them to suddenly run the table with Freddie Owens in charge. Did I think they’d beat Robert Morris and IUPUI with him? Yeah. But you can only polish a turd so much before you realize it’s still shit.
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Post by phearthephoenix on Feb 4, 2023 17:55:41 GMT -6
I'm genuinely surprised that most posters think this is rock bottom. Based on what we watched today it is possible it still gets worse from here. Somehow they were down to 9 players and a few of those have no business playing in a D1 rotation. I can unfortunately see it getting worse. The free fall to 30 & 363 carries on and we can't rule out some more lows we never thought were possible. . I know I previously wondered if we’ve hit bottom but how could it possibly get any worse than getting embarrassed by IUPUI’s tire fire of a program? Is losing to UWM by 40 on Monday really worse than losing at home to RMU by 32 or having one of the worst programs in the country putting their scrubs (yes, the 360th ranked team’s scrubs!) in this afternoon because they had such a big lead? We are at rock bottom. There is nowhere to go but up from here.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Feb 4, 2023 18:09:03 GMT -6
I'm genuinely surprised that most posters think this is rock bottom. Based on what we watched today it is possible it still gets worse from here. Somehow they were down to 9 players and a few of those have no business playing in a D1 rotation. I can unfortunately see it getting worse. The free fall to 30 & 363 carries on and we can't rule out some more lows we never thought were possible. I hate what is going on. The only positive is that this is giving a head start on the future. Unfortunately for those that wanted this to happen in this way the current product is far worse than before and I'm not surprised by that. How is this any worse than Will Ryan coaching? It’s the same exact thing. I wasn’t expecting them to suddenly run the table with Freddie Owens in charge. Did I think they’d beat Robert Morris and IUPUI with him? Yeah. But you can only polish a turd so much before you realize it’s still shit. How is this different? Well 4 different people in this thread called it the all time low. So don't ask me how it's different, ask them. I said all season wait until the end and the results would speak for themselves. I have no problem with moving on. However, for those that wanted a change in season to Freddie I would tell you that what is happening now is predictable. Some dudes have quit, there is no hope for a win at this point and 1/3 of the the scouting reports and game plans that didn't work were coming from Freddie. It isn't like this whole mess was Will's doing. So other than getting some momentum on the next hire this current new all time low is entirely predictable and expected. I can't wait for YSU to run it up by 50 and to have their coach tell them to shoot again when the shot clock is off at the end. Maybe some bench scrub for OU can posterize our best player instead of IUPUI at least having a starter do it. I don't know what is possible but I haven't ruled out something far worse that what we've seen. Perhaps a manger will suit up for a game. Maybe the interim coach will have to miss a game and we will be down to one coach. I'm just not convinced we've hit rock bottom yet.
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Post by cuchillo on Feb 4, 2023 19:04:54 GMT -6
How is this any worse than Will Ryan coaching? It’s the same exact thing. I wasn’t expecting them to suddenly run the table with Freddie Owens in charge. Did I think they’d beat Robert Morris and IUPUI with him? Yeah. But you can only polish a turd so much before you realize it’s still shit. How is this different? Well 4 different people in this thread called it the all time low. So don't ask me how it's different, ask them. I said all season wait until the end and the results would speak for themselves. I have no problem with moving on. However, for those that wanted a change in season to Freddie I would tell you that what is happening now is predictable. Some dudes have quit, there is no hope for a win at this point and 1/3 of the the scouting reports and game plans that didn't work were coming from Freddie. It isn't like this whole mess was Will's doing. So other than getting some momentum on the next hire this current new all time low is entirely predictable and expected. I can't wait for YSU to run it up by 50 and to have their coach tell them to shoot again when the shot clock is off at the end. Maybe some bench scrub for OU can posterize our best player instead of IUPUI at least having a starter do it. I don't know what is possible but I haven't ruled out something far worse that what we've seen. Perhaps a manger will suit up for a game. Maybe the interim coach will have to miss a game and we will be down to one coach. I'm just not convinced we've hit rock bottom yet. Is there any difference to 4-28 and 2-30? Or losing by 30 or by 50? I did not think Ryan would get axed mid-season but the Bob Morris debacle forced Moon's hand. I understand why it was done but yes what is going on now is predictable. UWGB may win again, but none of these players will be around when they do. With free agency in the NCAA now a dynamic coach can flip a roster quickly (positive or as we have seen, negatively). Other than short-term ego bruising for fans over repeated buttkickings it is time to think long term.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Feb 4, 2023 19:36:49 GMT -6
The decision was made prior to the RMU loss. The losses on that home stand were the by product of everyone knowing it was no longer a matter of if but when.
My ego isn't bruised. I would agree that these losses don't mean much if they can make a good hire. We really don't know what these losses mean to the potential candidate pool but I will side with minimal effect for anyone with an open mind.
However, the stuff I read on this board definitely falls under the category of be careful what you wish for because you just might get it.
We continually reference the lowest point. This process has set forth a series of short term outcomes that have continued to push lower and I'm not convinced we won't be referencing a different new low over the next 24 days.
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Post by barnzoboy on Feb 4, 2023 22:04:26 GMT -6
The decision was made prior to the RMU loss. The losses on that home stand were the by product of everyone knowing it was no longer a matter of if but when. My ego isn't bruised. I would agree that these losses don't mean much if they can make a good hire. We really don't know what these losses mean to the potential candidate pool but I will side with minimal effect for anyone with an open mind. However, the stuff I read on this board definitely falls under the category of be careful what you wish for because you just might get it. We continually reference the lowest point. This process has set forth a series of short term outcomes that have continued to push lower and I'm not convinced we won't be referencing a different new low over the next 24 days. I am with you on that, was thinking the same thing - how many times this year after a game didn't someone say it was a "new low point" - there was St. Thomas, Loyola-Chicago, Stanford, RMU at home, now IUPUI. What makes the next new low is the question - you mentioned some possibilities including a loss by 50 points. We might get shut out in a half, we could we lose focus and make a field goal in the opposition basket, etc. There's a lot of potential.
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Post by cuchillo on Feb 4, 2023 22:30:25 GMT -6
The decision was made prior to the RMU loss. The losses on that home stand were the by product of everyone knowing it was no longer a matter of if but when. My ego isn't bruised. I would agree that these losses don't mean much if they can make a good hire. We really don't know what these losses mean to the potential candidate pool but I will side with minimal effect for anyone with an open mind. However, the stuff I read on this board definitely falls under the category of be careful what you wish for because you just might get it. We continually reference the lowest point. This process has set forth a series of short term outcomes that have continued to push lower and I'm not convinced we won't be referencing a different new low over the next 24 days. Care to elaborate on the decision being made prior to the Robert Morris game? I agree things could get super ugly the rest of the way but I'm of the view that no matter how ugly it gets it is largely irrelevant. The job should be attractive as there is only one way to go, especially if it ends up 363 of 363.
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Post by Former uwgb men’s manager will on Feb 5, 2023 9:08:11 GMT -6
Does anyone know why Brayden Dailey, Garren Davis, Zae Blake, and Donovan Short didn’t play yesterday are they all hurt?
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Post by barnzoboy on Feb 5, 2023 10:43:04 GMT -6
Don't forget we get to lose one more in the first game of the Horizon tourney, so really there will be 8 more games to go, that's how we get to 2-30 for the year. I thought the bottom two teams don’t even qualify? According to the Horizon tournament page, the #11 seed plays the #6 seed on Tuesday, February 28th. Maybe this is different than some past years. Tournament schedule page
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Post by uscg2012 on Feb 5, 2023 11:40:09 GMT -6
I thought the bottom two teams don’t even qualify? According to the Horizon tournament page, the #11 seed plays the #6 seed on Tuesday, February 28th. Maybe this is different than some past years. Tournament schedule pageOnly 23 more days left of this non sense.
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Post by Former uwgb men’s manager will on Feb 5, 2023 14:45:51 GMT -6
How many transfers this year does everyone transfer out this year?
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Post by kmell822 on Feb 5, 2023 15:29:29 GMT -6
How many transfers this year does everyone transfer out this year? One thing is for certain; a need for somewhat of a splash hire to keep current recruits in the fold as well as the best of the current team.
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Post by gbguy on Feb 5, 2023 16:45:27 GMT -6
I'm not all that jazzed about most of the incoming class. If a new coach wants to go in a different direction, I am fine with that.
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