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Post by uscg2012 on Jan 15, 2023 13:35:13 GMT -6
In only a semi-kidding manner after the game at the alumni banquet, I heard Will ask some guys “do any of you have any eligibility left so we can get some guys who can defend?!” At least there’s a semblance of self-awareness, and he seems like a reasonably alright guy….it’s still time for a change, though. Making a comment like that in a somewhat public setting isn't a good sign. He brought those guys in there. Then again when your roster flips almost entirely every season you take what you can get. Sounds like a dead man walking to me. I agree, that’s not good. He made the decision to give scholarships to walk on’s. This is on him.
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Post by yayphoenixyay on Jan 15, 2023 13:58:10 GMT -6
Making a comment like that in a somewhat public setting isn't a good sign. He brought those guys in there. Then again when your roster flips almost entirely every season you take what you can get. Sounds like a dead man walking to me. I agree, that’s not good. He made the decision to give scholarships to walk on’s. This is on him. Also, for what it’s worth, it didn’t look like Will and Josh Moon had any sort of interaction there. Josh didn’t sit by Will and his wife, and I personally didn’t see them exchange words. Sure, they were probably spreading themselves out to talk to as many people as possible, but there weren’t really that many people there, so it raises some intrigue, anyway.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Jan 15, 2023 14:32:55 GMT -6
Well he didn't say anything that wasn't true. He also didn't say it to a random guy at Buffalo Wild Wings either. He said it to a group of former players. The guys some here want to appease and believe know what is best. If he would have known that a message boarder was there I'm sure he wouldn't have said it.
We've officially entered the period of time that he can do no right.
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Post by cuchillo on Jan 15, 2023 14:39:48 GMT -6
We've officially entered the period of time that he can do no right. What has he done that has merited any slack be given in just about any aspect of running the program?
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Post by bayballer on Jan 15, 2023 14:47:45 GMT -6
Are people really upset about that comment he made? Lol
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Jan 15, 2023 15:00:41 GMT -6
We've officially entered the period of time that he can do no right. What has he done that has merited any slack be given in just about any aspect of running the program? Well that he is a regular human so he should be able to make a joke in passing to those who came before him. That is better than not talking to those alumni at all or pouting about losing. Which we've seen from previous coaches here.
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Post by uscg2012 on Jan 15, 2023 15:05:02 GMT -6
I agree, that’s not good. He made the decision to give scholarships to walk on’s. This is on him. Also, for what it’s worth, it didn’t look like Will and Josh Moon had any sort of interaction there. Josh didn’t sit by Will and his wife, and I personally didn’t see them exchange words. Sure, they were probably spreading themselves out to talk to as many people as possible, but there weren’t really that many people there, so it raises some intrigue, anyway. I think this is a non story although. Both are professionals and wouldn’t let that spill over.
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Post by hudsonhawk on Jan 15, 2023 15:18:26 GMT -6
I think coach Ryan needs to ask himself why my players aren't committed to playing defense? This starts with the coaching staff. He should ask am I recruiting players that can play defense. I am guessing that they are recruiting shooters. He changed the offense, but why not the defense? This is a young team so they have to become teachers as well as coaches. Yesterday they had 16 turnovers and 12 were steals that lead to easy baskets. I am sure that the coaches don't coach that. That's on the players. Now they have to figure out how to get Cade and Brock the ball more inside. They need to pass more and look for holes in the defense. If you want the players to play with more energy coach Ryan needs to coach with more energy. Maybe look and see how Shaka coaches his defense. Deflections play a big part of hes defense. Deflections disrupt the offense and it becomes a 50 50 ball. Marquette doesn't have a great defense but they do play good enough to win or give themselves a chance to win. I am just saying.
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Post by pdf0427 on Jan 15, 2023 15:29:05 GMT -6
You can tell guys are already checked out and I hope everyone is ready to lose 80% of the team again in the portal, I’m actually hoping they leave this train wreck for their own sake Who are we supposed to be concerned about leaving? How many of these guys have any chance of playing real roles on a good D1 team? If the board got it's wish and the dream coach was brought in, how many current players would that coach want to build around? Leaving for their own good for most of the roster would mean heading to D2 or a JUCO. Undoubtedly, some will have people in their ears telling them they are better than this, and if the players listen, they'll be in worse positions than Kamari McGee, who has played 68 minutes for the Badgers this year. I'm not sure what any of these players has showed that is going to make any major school want him. A bunch will undoubtedly be in the portal, though. That's the new reality of college basketball.
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Post by yayphoenixyay on Jan 15, 2023 15:35:36 GMT -6
What has he done that has merited any slack be given in just about any aspect of running the program? Well that he is a regular human so he should be able to make a joke in passing to those who came before him. That is better than not talking to those alumni at all or pouting about losing. Which we've seen from previous coaches here. Yeah, I’m arguably his biggest critic and even I don’t think it was incendiary. The point I was making is that he is at least aware there are massive problems and he’s not delusional about it.
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Post by gbguy on Jan 15, 2023 15:58:19 GMT -6
Well that he is a regular human so he should be able to make a joke in passing to those who came before him. That is better than not talking to those alumni at all or pouting about losing. Which we've seen from previous coaches here. Yeah, I’m arguably his biggest critic and even I don’t think it was incendiary. The point I was making is that he is at least aware there are massive problems and he’s not delusional about it. Of course he's aware of the problem. It just doesn't seem like he can fix it.
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Post by cuchillo on Jan 15, 2023 16:03:01 GMT -6
My point was, and I suppose I could have articulated as much, that when you're 2-17 making a comment like that probably shouldn't be uttered. If you're 9-8 then fine. Considering the current state of the union, not so much.
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Post by kmell822 on Jan 16, 2023 8:37:07 GMT -6
You can tell guys are already checked out and I hope everyone is ready to lose 80% of the team again in the portal, I’m actually hoping they leave this train wreck for their own sake Who are we supposed to be concerned about leaving? How many of these guys have any chance of playing real roles on a good D1 team? If the board got it's wish and the dream coach was brought in, how many current players would that coach want to build around? Leaving for their own good for most of the roster would mean heading to D2 or a JUCO. Undoubtedly, some will have people in their ears telling them they are better than this, and if the players listen, they'll be in worse positions than Kamari McGee, who has played 68 minutes for the Badgers this year. I'm not sure what any of these players has showed that is going to make any major school want him. A bunch will undoubtedly be in the portal, though. That's the new reality of college basketball. It is reality but it is also happening to other teams as well. Yet the impact at GB seems worse than almost all other D1 teams and that begs the question why.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Jan 16, 2023 10:25:01 GMT -6
The portal is an interesting place. Successful teams like Texas tech, St Bonaventure, Wichita State or Wofford have been wiped out. Less successful teams like North Dakota and GB have been wiped out too.
In GB's case losing and a coaching change have been factors. Since Will Ryan took over GB has lost 19 players. Only 10 were able to remain in D1. Davis, Pipes and Jefferson stayed viable. Stieber has been a similar role. Kellogg, Thompson, Ansong, Moore, McGee and Ivory are reserves.
They have had 4 guys go to D2. Blayton, Taylor, Claflin and Cem. None of those guys are double digit scorers the last I looked.
Damontae Taylor kicks ass in D2 JUCO ball while Jacob Jones and Colin Schaefer contribute but aren't stars. Tutu never made it to the NAIA school and Listau retired.
Of the 19 guys, 12 were Darner era guys and 7 were from the Ryan era. It probably would have helped those optics if the coaching change was made in March and not late May. Those guys didn't have many places to go and the new coach needed players. An earlier change allows everyone more time to figure stuff out.
I'd say the team is losing which nobody likes, many guys were here that wouldn't have otherwise been here and in general the talent level hasn't been as high as it needed to be.
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Post by uscg2012 on Jan 16, 2023 11:08:49 GMT -6
The inability to land an impact transfer too has hindered this team. Like a Dwayne Cohill, Rocket Watts, Gerald Liddell, IPFW has several, Etc etc.
I know we have reached out but just couldn’t seal the deal on any of them.
The program as a whole needs to get better at this whether it’s this regime or the next
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