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Post by uscg2012 on Dec 31, 2022 8:13:48 GMT -6
Noon tip today on New Years Eve.
Oakland is riding high after putting a beating up on Milwaukee.
Believe it or not Coach Ryan has a winning record against Coach Kampe. So we have that going for us.
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Post by barnzoboy on Dec 31, 2022 8:42:17 GMT -6
Oakland is only 3-11 but I think that is misleading as they have played a very solid non-conference schedule. Maybe that will serve them like it's supposed to - toughen them up for conference play - it worked so far two nights ago with that 20 point plus shellacking of UWM. Oakland had a couple guys locked in from 3-point range in that game. For those in the optimistic camp, this one has to be high on your list of "so you're saying there's a chance" games. Always weird watching Oakland home games on that dark court surface. We are 11.5 underdogs at FanDuel's book. I'm not sure Oakland is quite that bad.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Dec 31, 2022 10:12:43 GMT -6
I am not telling anyone that GB is winning this game.
I am telling you that Oakland has been every bit as bad as their record indicates. They lost by double digits to good mid majors. They lost by double digits on the road in conference play. They have a 2 point win against a not that great EMU team. They have 30 point losses to high majors and a 20 points loss to a mid major plus.
If this team didn't have expectations and a few names like Kampe and Watts that fan boys in the media like to jock, then they would be mentioned in the exact same conversation with GB and IUPUI.
This is a terrible rebounding team so that helps GB. Against UWM the Grizzlies spread the defense and UWM couldn't contain the dribble or the kick out to Lampman. GB didn't do a lot right on Thursday but Blake with some help made AD play very badly. They have a chance to use that speed on the ball from Blake again and make it hard for Moore.
This OU team will implode if you put pressure on them. If you let guys like Watts get comfortable then he can do things. If you make life a little difficult he will force things and then the team infighting will begin.
GB might still get their butt kicked but this is one of those games that people need to get off Kampe's nuts and realize this OU team has been hot garbage. Beating the pants off of a UWM team that has also been hot garbage of late shouldn't distract anyone from this being a winnable game.
Also, if a certain slow guard that now refuses to shoot semi open 3's plays more than 15 minutes it should be grounds for immediate termination. Like enough is a freaking enough. I want to win a damn game, we shouldn't have to settle for doing it right but not well.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Dec 31, 2022 12:00:53 GMT -6
Based on the starting 5 it appears someone wants a pink slip.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Dec 31, 2022 12:16:57 GMT -6
When Blake Lampman takes you off the bounce you can just retire.
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Post by yayphoenixyay on Dec 31, 2022 12:27:26 GMT -6
Based on the starting 5 it appears someone wants a pink slip. At least Garren looks like he is attempting to play, that’s nice. On the other hand, we could open up another scholarship if we just got a cardboard cutout of Nate and put it out on the floor, it might have a better plus/minus. I can’t believe we are at a point where we’ve fallen so far that I yearn for the days when Turner Botz and Kenneth Lowe were our worst players. They’d be our best players by a long shot on this squad, save MAYBE for Zae and Cade on some days. I’m glad to see the fire Will train is full steam ahead, finally!
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Dec 31, 2022 12:59:52 GMT -6
We have seen enough Lucas Steiber, Ryan Claflin, Colin Schaefer and now this to know the head coach has a soft spot for walk-ons. Perhaps because he was one. Perhaps because his dad could surround walk-ons with good players and get away with it. With this program you can't get away with it.
We have a dude that was a starter that has a much higher ceiling. That dude is dressed and appears to be available. Yes that dude appears to be a head case. Go coach him up. Don't quit on him, no matter what. You wouldn't quit on your kid. Don't quit on a guy that may have quit on himself. That is part of coaching.
The coach we have does appear to know way more about basketball than most give him credit for. It doesn't always show because he appears to refuse to play the guys with the best potential.
It is clear he is coaching for his future. I am calling this out today because IMO he needs a fresh start on his view of the roster. If he wants to get canned because he doesn't want to deal with guys that need more help then that's on him. He will have to live with the results.
I've never seriously said what the AD should do with him but he's going to be selling his house if his love affair with guys who aren't good enough continues.
Also, the Zane should play crowd doesn't have a leg to stand on after that performance.
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Post by cuchillo on Dec 31, 2022 13:50:42 GMT -6
#PhadeThePhoenix
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Post by kmell822 on Dec 31, 2022 13:59:48 GMT -6
Well they scored over 60 points - I do not think that has happened much this season. Shooting continues to be a problem. Question is can they shoot but not get open for a clean shot or simply are they not good shooters?
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Post by uscg2012 on Dec 31, 2022 14:01:38 GMT -6
Do we still have to wait till March until we can discuss a coaching change? Lol
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Dec 31, 2022 14:10:18 GMT -6
Do we still have to wait till March until we can discuss a coaching change? Lol Do you really think a public university that most likely has to use public money to make such a change is going to make a move now? They have to give him 30 day notice of termination. Do you think they are going to do that in season? I don't. So yeah go ahead and talk about a coaching change but that is only going to lead you to be frustrated when it doesn't happen when you want it to.
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Post by uscg2012 on Dec 31, 2022 14:17:38 GMT -6
Do we still have to wait till March until we can discuss a coaching change? Lol Do you really think a public university that most likely has to use public money to make such a change is going to make a move now? They have to give him 30 day notice of termination. Do you think they are going to do that in season? I don't. So yeah go ahead and talk about a coaching change but that is only going to lead you to be frustrated when it doesn't happen when you want it to. I think you missed the point of my question. No way do we make a change in season, but we as fans should have every right to start discussing it. If this keeps up which it probably will there would be zero reason to retain. This is a failure on every level.
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Post by phoenixbooster on Dec 31, 2022 14:35:52 GMT -6
Enough of the naysayers. While it appears we’re regressing at every level here of D1 basketball, we’re within 2.5 games of first place!
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Dec 31, 2022 14:37:38 GMT -6
Do you really think a public university that most likely has to use public money to make such a change is going to make a move now? They have to give him 30 day notice of termination. Do you think they are going to do that in season? I don't. So yeah go ahead and talk about a coaching change but that is only going to lead you to be frustrated when it doesn't happen when you want it to. I think you missed the point of my question. No way do we make a change in season, but we as fans should have every right to start discussing it. If this keeps up which it probably will there would be zero reason to retain. This is a failure on every level. I didn't miss your point. Unless your point is take something that already isn't fun and to make it worse. I'd like to talk basketball and point out what we see. Right now all I read is the coach sucks, make a change. If that is level of insight we are going to get across the message board then yes it is duly noted and there is no reason to discuss it further IMO. Unless we are just trying to beat the last bit of any enjoyment out of GB basketball we may have left.
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Post by barnzoboy on Dec 31, 2022 14:42:01 GMT -6
Also, the Zane should play crowd doesn't have a leg to stand on after that performance. Wow, seriously? He played 3 minutes, lol!!
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