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Post by knightlife920 on Apr 22, 2015 21:01:10 GMT -6
You think he's a program changer ?? Not right out of the gate, but for him to average nearly 40 PPG in a very good conference is pretty telling. Obviously his size does not matter much as he can split the double team and use his quickness to get around guys. He would almost certainly never be Skyes level but he could be very good. With no significant interest from anyone else, I think we have to pull the trigger and see what he can do.
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Post by knightlife920 on Apr 22, 2015 21:04:13 GMT -6
Riley just posted on his instagram that he has interest from Wisconsin, Marquette and Iowa but has no offers. At this point if he has no offers from top programs the best he could do would be to walk on. If the Phoenix could offer up a scholarship soon we could land him. I am not sure I see a D1 player in those videos. He wasn't that quick but I did like his change of pace, it made him look faster than he is. Some guys only go one speed but Riley had good hesitation moves and was solid changing directions. Those other schools must see him as a walk on. To me with Love and Findlay at the point right now and at least five scholarships to fill in the spring time I don't see a lot of harming in bringing in a guy and seeing if he can make the most of his opportunity. If not he will likely move on at the end of the year. If he was an early verbal commit or fall signing I might feel different but I don't feel like GB has a lot to lose as they currently don't have the long term PG solution on the roster. Exactly, there is nothing to lose whatsoever. I do think he could certainly play at the D1 level. I see a better scoring but smaller C Love in him. The way Love finished out the end of the season I think if Riley were to climb aboard he could certainly challenge him for a starting spot if we run a three guard set (assuming we land Cooper; so it would be Riley, Cooper and Small in that scenario)
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Apr 22, 2015 21:05:15 GMT -6
Also, for my money the Milwaukee City conference is pretty weak. There are some solid coaches/programs but others that are a disaster. Several of those teams couldn't play good defense if their collective lives depended on it. I am not opposed to looking at Riley, I don't see any better names out there right now.
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Post by exithere on Apr 22, 2015 21:35:46 GMT -6
I am not sure I see a D1 player in those videos. He wasn't that quick but I did like his change of pace, it made him look faster than he is. Some guys only go one speed but Riley had good hesitation moves and was solid changing directions. Those other schools must see him as a walk on. To me with Love and Findlay at the point right now and at least five scholarships to fill in the spring time I don't see a lot of harming in bringing in a guy and seeing if he can make the most of his opportunity. If not he will likely move on at the end of the year. If he was an early verbal commit or fall signing I might feel different but I don't feel like GB has a lot to lose as they currently don't have the long term PG solution on the roster. Exactly, there is nothing to lose whatsoever. I do think he could certainly play at the D1 level. I see a better scoring but smaller C Love in him. The way Love finished out the end of the season I think if Riley were to climb aboard he could certainly challenge him for a starting spot if we run a three guard set (assuming we land Cooper; so it would be Riley, Cooper and Small in that scenario) Wow... from the video i don't see any quality that would make anyone think that riley would beat out Love...The guy is soo small. I could see him as a backup his first year and maybe move into a starting role. But the guy on that tape right now shouldn't be starting for any mid major
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Post by knightlife920 on Apr 23, 2015 0:04:25 GMT -6
Exactly, there is nothing to lose whatsoever. I do think he could certainly play at the D1 level. I see a better scoring but smaller C Love in him. The way Love finished out the end of the season I think if Riley were to climb aboard he could certainly challenge him for a starting spot if we run a three guard set (assuming we land Cooper; so it would be Riley, Cooper and Small in that scenario) Wow... from the video i don't see any quality that would make anyone think that riley would beat out Love...The guy is soo small. I could see him as a backup his first year and maybe move into a starting role. But the guy on that tape right now shouldn't be starting for any mid major And what exactly does Love do so well that Riley couldn't. Not only that, but you rip on him but say he could probably start the next year. Make up your mind. The only thing that Love has over him is size and that is all.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Apr 23, 2015 6:09:51 GMT -6
Wow... from the video i don't see any quality that would make anyone think that riley would beat out Love...The guy is soo small. I could see him as a backup his first year and maybe move into a starting role. But the guy on that tape right now shouldn't be starting for any mid major And what exactly does Love do so well that Riley couldn't. Play defense. For all that Love isn't as a player we lose track of him being a very good defensive player. Depending on what style is being played that alone could make him more valuable than Riley.
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Post by gbbrl97 on Apr 23, 2015 6:41:27 GMT -6
I would bring in Riley as a redshirt walk-on, see how he does in practice, then if he can contribute, put him on scholarship. If he's closer to a skinny 5'5" than the 5'9" that was advertised, he may have to prove himself against mid-major D1 talent. Not to say that he can't make it at the mid-major level, but he could grow a couple more inches and be closer to a legitimate 5'9" than a 'game program' 5'9" and be a little stronger from some weight room work.
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Post by exithere on Apr 23, 2015 7:14:39 GMT -6
Wow... from the video i don't see any quality that would make anyone think that riley would beat out Love...The guy is soo small. I could see him as a backup his first year and maybe move into a starting role. But the guy on that tape right now shouldn't be starting for any mid major And what exactly does Love do so well that Riley couldn't. Not only that, but you rip on him but say he could probably start the next year. Make up your mind. The only thing that Love has over him is size and that is all. I said he could maybe start next year not this upcoming season. He needs to grow a few inches and put on a significant amount of muscle. He would be a big liability on the defensive end.
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Post by phearthephoenix on Apr 23, 2015 7:19:09 GMT -6
I would bring in Riley as a redshirt walk-on, see how he does in practice, then if he can contribute, put him on scholarship. If he's closer to a skinny 5'5" than the 5'9" that was advertised, he may have to prove himself against mid-major D1 talent. Not to say that he can't make it at the mid-major level, but he could grow a couple more inches and be closer to a legitimate 5'9" than a 'game program' 5'9" and be a little stronger from some weight room work. I agree with this. I'd take him if he's willing to be a walk-on like Eric Valentine a few years ago. I wouldn't offer a scholarship.
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Post by thetulsawarrior on Apr 23, 2015 7:26:50 GMT -6
The preferred walk-on option is something I'd like to see Darner do with a couple of prospects this spring. It would help in practice sessions and give a kid with a dream a chance.
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Post by basketballfan14 on Apr 23, 2015 8:37:07 GMT -6
Whoever mentioned the City Conference and good players are sorely mistaken. In the past the conference was amazing, but for years it has been declining. The coaches and players in the conference do not teach defense (positional defense), they just tell them to go out there and get buckets and take gambles on defense. Riley would be an okay walk on but you would have to be crazy to offer a 5'6 shooting guard a scholarship from a D1 school.
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Post by knightlife920 on Apr 23, 2015 8:50:58 GMT -6
Whoever mentioned the City Conference and good players are sorely mistaken. In the past the conference was amazing, but for years it has been declining. The coaches and players in the conference do not teach defense (positional defense), they just tell them to go out there and get buckets and take gambles on defense. Riley would be an okay walk on but you would have to be crazy to offer a 5'6 shooting guard a scholarship from a D1 school. Right because Keifer Sykes at 5'9'' couldn't play either... Not to mention he played in the decaying Chicago city league. Maybe it's a height thing, maybe it's an inner city thing that some of you don't like, I really don't know but what I do know is that this guy is worth a damn and he could certainly contribute at this level regardless of how tall he is or what conference he played in.
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Post by exithere on Apr 23, 2015 9:24:21 GMT -6
Whoever mentioned the City Conference and good players are sorely mistaken. In the past the conference was amazing, but for years it has been declining. The coaches and players in the conference do not teach defense (positional defense), they just tell them to go out there and get buckets and take gambles on defense. Riley would be an okay walk on but you would have to be crazy to offer a 5'6 shooting guard a scholarship from a D1 school. Right because Keifer Sykes at 5'9'' couldn't play either... Not to mention he played in the decaying Chicago city league. Maybe it's a height thing, maybe it's an inner city thing that some of you don't like, I really don't know but what I do know is that this guy is worth a damn and he could certainly contribute at this level regardless of how tall he is or what conference he played in. Sykes athletcism allowed him to play a lot bigger than he was. Riley doesn't even come close to sykes athletcism
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Post by knightlife920 on Apr 23, 2015 9:58:26 GMT -6
Right because Keifer Sykes at 5'9'' couldn't play either... Not to mention he played in the decaying Chicago city league. Maybe it's a height thing, maybe it's an inner city thing that some of you don't like, I really don't know but what I do know is that this guy is worth a damn and he could certainly contribute at this level regardless of how tall he is or what conference he played in. Sykes athletcism allowed him to play a lot bigger than he was. Riley doesn't even come close to sykes athletcism Just because he can't dunk doesn't mean he isn't a decent athlete. He can shoot, he can handle the ball and at least play some semblance of defense. In a system that Linc runs, what more could you ask for?
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Post by Fanforever on Apr 23, 2015 10:01:51 GMT -6
I watched the video and he seems to be quick in short areas but not fast. Also, he did not have much lift on his jumpers or when going up for layups. To compare him to Sykes is not fare due to Sykes being an amazing athlete. However at Riley's height his lack of athleticism is alarming. So i could see bringing him in as a walk on with a chance to earn a scholarship.
Another thing from the video is that the defense was not very good and made it look bad like a decent player should.
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