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Post by fansincebuss on Nov 6, 2011 13:52:48 GMT -6
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Post by Administrator on Nov 27, 2011 18:24:59 GMT -6
Inside Phoenix Basketball starts Monday night 6:00 at The Bar West (on Holgren Way). It will also be streamed. Usually get some good info from Coach Wardle. If you miss it, you can also catch it on Wisconsin On Demand if you have Time Warner Cable.
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Post by Administrator on Dec 27, 2011 7:57:09 GMT -6
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Post by Administrator on Dec 28, 2011 8:39:21 GMT -6
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Post by shooting the J on Jan 31, 2012 5:47:30 GMT -6
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Post by shooting the J on Feb 3, 2012 7:09:24 GMT -6
Demovsky story: Phoenix get boost from freshman duo.Really relieved to see Humphrey contribute. Without him, we were just too small. He is kind of a cross between Ron Nored and D'Aundrey Brown.
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Post by shooting the J on Feb 14, 2012 7:20:23 GMT -6
Rob Demovsky column Phoenix should get cozy at Kress CenterI couldn't disagree more. Why turn your back on the paying public to cater to a small student body that gets free tickets? What kind of business plan is that? If weekday games were played at the Kress, this season ticket holder would be dropping 4 tickets. I drive from the Fox Valley, I just shouldn't have my kids up that late on a school night that the extra drive to the east side would add. I also think that playing at The Kress is thinking small. Marquette comes in next year. That sells not just tickets to 1 game, but fuels the sales of 5 game packages. Wisconsin and Virginia come in the year after. This is simply the calm before the storm. I do think Rob did his job well with this column, as I bet it fuels lots of discussion. I do think the Kress is beautiful. I dream that someday we blow up the Brown County Arena and replace it with a 10,000 seat version of the Kress to house the Phoenix and the State Tournament. I know that is far fetched, but if I'm going to dream, I like to dream big.
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Post by FunDmentals on Feb 14, 2012 8:58:52 GMT -6
An on campus location for Men's basketball is ideal. However, GB really screwed the pooch when they made the deal to get the Resch built. Then five years later when they were building the Kress they couldn't make it bigger to house both men's and women's because the city would have flipped out if they abandoned ship on the Resch five years in. The city never would have worked with the Phoenix again, and the public outcry would have hurt the university's image too much. Regardless of where they play the students' are not into cheering at games. GB needs a small amount of students to create a fan organization and require other students to attend a cheering session to learn how to act as a fan. I remember mediocre Phoenix teams beating Milwaukee when they were going to the Sweet 16, or a top 15 Butler team, because those were the only games the fans were in to. The Resch could be a great atmosphere if the students would take ownership. And I believe that would lead to more winning, which would lead to more fans.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Feb 14, 2012 11:23:30 GMT -6
I am still of the belief that that Resch is the right place for GB to play all of their men's basketball home games. Moving to a smaller building is like waiving the white flag and saying that you don't think the program will ever grow. Playing at the Resch isn't about what they are, it is about what they could and should be.
The community will support a winner and it will support the team against a good opponent. That is supported by Rob's article. I think they are on the cusp of winning and I think the schedule going forward will be better with MU, UW and UVA coming to town. With that said, stop playing D2 teams. Heck, make an investment in a pay game against a high major on the road in order to have the money to pay for a decent home game.
Plus I hate to say it but put the same 2500 people in the Kress that go to the Resch and the building still won't be "rocking." Go to a GB game and take a look around, there are a lot of older fans who sit on their hands and the only time they make noise is to complain and yell insults to the refs. Building size is not the issue but the "guest list" is.
I still think they need a dynamic student to be the in game host. I saw this at Kent State, they gave a kid a mic and he led the entire crowd in cheers. There was no doubt about what to do and when to do it and that building got really loud with a GB size crowd. I think the non old time fans would make more noise if they didn't feel like they were the only one's cheering.
Speaking of cheers can the cheer leading team officially retire "shoot the hoop, shoot shoot the hoop"? Aside from the pep song no traditions from the Dick Bennett era should remain.
Right now the only cool tradition I see is the band during the Kevin Rudolph "let is rock" song does some sort of rowing thing. That's all we have for a home atmosphere.
I feel like the athletic department has a lot of really nice, hard working and loyal Phoenix fans who have been around for decades. I am not sure the athletic department has a lot of new ideas on how to improve the game day atmosphere.
Bottom line moving to the Kress just says we don't think we will be good any time soon, we don't think we will schedule anyone that fans want to see and we don't think our program can grow.
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Post by phearthephoenix on Feb 14, 2012 11:43:28 GMT -6
When I used to live on campus I would dream of GB doing what Villanova does, where they play most of their games at their on campus facility and play the big time games at the Sixers NBA arena, which sort of sounds like what Rob is proposing here. Pros:- 100% concession and parking money for games played at the Kress, which im sure isn't the case at the Resch, they probably have to split that with PMI. - Better basketball environment. A crowd of 2,500 would look a lot better at the Kress than at the Resch. - More student involvement (?) - Considerably less rent owed to play at the Resch since it'd probably only be a few games per year. Cons:- Campus is pretty far away from almost anywhere in the Green Bay metro area, while the Resch is very easy to get to off of 41 - Something special about sharing a parking lot with the Packers - A fear of someday outgrowing the Kress if GB ever rises to prominence again I'm sure there are more but I'm just rambling at this point. For me it comes down to the fact that the students really dont care at all anyway. When I watched the Marquette game with a bunch of my friends, who are all UWGB students and huge college basketball fans too, a vast majority were cheering for MU! I'm not sure if this was started last year or this year, but the athletic department actually scans student IDs now and with every game you attend you receive points towards TV's, XBOX's, iPads, digital camera's, ect and that still hasnt enticed any students to come. The uwm game had a pathetic student turnout. Here is more about how students can win those prizes. The diehard fans will come watch the games wherever they are played (except GB BB apparently ), its the casual fans who wont make the trek out to campus. I think GB BB is right about catering to the people who actually BUY tickets who like it at the Resch and all the bars in the area.
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Post by can opener man on Feb 14, 2012 12:11:48 GMT -6
I hope Demosky just needed a filler for the paper was writing soemthing he didnt believe in too take up space.
Just with Kowalcyzcks 2 years he went to the CBI, with those teams, the Kress Center would have been an issue. The mens team needs a minimum of 6,500 seats for the years they are doing better.
I would like to see maybe a contract change where they play 2-3 regular season games at the Kress, but I would never want a whole schedule to be played there. On a good year in a rival game against Milwaukee, turning people away for the game would be a mistake.
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Post by can opener man on Feb 14, 2012 12:13:57 GMT -6
The students get a free shuttle to the Resch Center anyways, if they cant get in the shuttle and go to the game, how could they get into the Kress.
In addition, the milwaukee game when the crowd was getting loud, the student section just sat there with no reaction, so even if there are more students, no one will be able to hear them, it will actualy be a quieter enviroment, and less home field advantage.
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Post by fansincebuss on Feb 14, 2012 12:36:22 GMT -6
I posted this as a comment on the the Press Gazette web site.
"As a fan of both the women's and men's teams and a resident of Appleton I have attended many games at both facilities. For me and other fans in the valley the Resch Center is much more convient. The view from my seats is actually better at the Resch center and I only consider going to weekend women's games because of the additional travel. I think we have an improving men's team and the crowds will improve with the product. 5000 or 6000 fans at the Resch makes for an exciting atmosphere. As for the students, even with a nationally ranked women's team, there are very few students at the games"
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Post by fansincebuss on Feb 16, 2012 21:52:36 GMT -6
I borrowed this from the Milwaukee Message Board:
"From Doug Gottlieb's NBA Draft Big Board (Top 30)
26. Alec Brown, Green Bay Phoenix Realistically, the sophomore is probably two years away, but the 7-1 prospect is really skilled. If he gets tougher and stronger, Brown will be a lottery pick."
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Post by Fanforever on Feb 18, 2012 8:31:37 GMT -6
I also doubt I would renew my season tickets if the games were moved to campus.
I bring my kids along to the games and the extra drive time would make getting them home way too late. So my hope is people realize what we have and start to come out to the games.
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