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Post by phearthephoenix on Feb 1, 2023 9:51:00 GMT -6
What should we call this matchup between #360 and #361 in the NET rankings? The Butthole Bowl? The Rock Bottom Bowl?
GB was able to win pretty comfortably in the first meeting with 4,000+ screaming kids in attendance at the Resch Center, though it did get a little dicey towards the end. IUPUI doesn't have an HL win yet but has been playing much better as of late. GB on the other hand has not played a complete 40 minutes since the UMKC game in December, at least that's how it feels anyway. Hoping the fellas can end the skid and get back in the win column in this one.
No matter what, make sure you have a nice strong Bloody Mary or Screwdriver for this 11:00 AM tip on Saturday.
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Post by barnzoboy on Feb 1, 2023 11:33:59 GMT -6
I think we should refer to this as the "Under 30" game or something like that, because if we lose this one, chances are we are going to have a 30-loss season. Since it's going to have been a week since our last game, I would hope that we have a full roster available.
We get a chance to scout our next two opponents on Thursday (tomorrow) as IUPUI is hosting Milwaukee. This is a 10AM central time tip-off, so I think I'll close my office door and check it out. Beats working.
The Horizon League standings right now have a 4-team logjam at the top of the standings - Youngstown, Milwaukee, Cleveland, and NKU all have 9-3 conference records.
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Post by phoenixphan87 on Feb 2, 2023 12:29:57 GMT -6
IUPUI is playing much better than they did the last time these teams met. We all know what's happened to the Phoenix. Really want to see the guys put it all together enough to get a win but GB should be underdogs in the rematch. Let's get a win for Freddie Owens!
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Post by phoenixphan87 on Feb 4, 2023 7:25:44 GMT -6
IUPUI -4.5 is the line I see. Man, I have a hard time seeing GB keep it that close to anyone in the road right now. That being said, GB moneyline is the play at 11 am to get your day started right!!
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Post by barnzoboy on Feb 4, 2023 9:23:28 GMT -6
IUPUI -4.5 is the line I see. Man, I have a hard time seeing GB keep it that close to anyone in the road right now. That being said, GB moneyline is the play at 11 am to get your day started right!! You are braver than I am on that call, I cannot pull the trigger on this game even getting a few points. IUPUI is 8-2 against the spread in their last 10, and we are 2-8 ATS in the same span. This pretty fairly shows the direction of each of these teams lately. IUPUI played Milwaukee really close on Thursday, we'll see if a week off has provided us with some sort of corrective action. |
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Feb 4, 2023 10:24:48 GMT -6
IUPUI isn't super skilled and doesn't play pretty basketball. The thing they do is play with maximum effort.
Teams think they are going to get a win against a bad team and overlook them. They aren't ready for the effort and end up in a fight they weren't expecting.
GB in that same time felt the burden of their fans and administration calling out and freezing out their team. They hit a free fall and may not be able to get out of it.
GB has an excellent chance to win today if they come ready for a fight. The good thing about GB's status is they shouldn't be overlooking IUPUI like others have.
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Post by phoenixphan87 on Feb 4, 2023 11:19:38 GMT -6
I wouldn’t want GB plus points- they either win outright or lose by double digits
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Post by kmell822 on Feb 4, 2023 11:58:07 GMT -6
Other team making almost twice the percentage of shots is not a good sign - at least as of halftime. Or shooting 20 ish% is not a way to win games - against a team that they should at least be competitive with. Perhaps 2nd half changes could improve on 1st half results.
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Post by GBPhoenix1 on Feb 4, 2023 12:11:52 GMT -6
Guys like Garren when he plays and DZ are not wired to get back on defense. These guys don't play hard enough to earn a win against anyone.
Also, Cade has so much skill to score even when the entire defense floods to him. Meanwhile GB's defense just stands around while a less skilled player goes to work off of playing hard.
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Post by jzenk42 on Feb 4, 2023 12:58:07 GMT -6
Losing by 15 against a 3-21 team might be the lowest point in the history of this program
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Post by phoenixbooster on Feb 4, 2023 13:08:40 GMT -6
Losing by 15 against a 3-21 team might be the lowest point in the history of this program I agree; it’s not even close. Sadly, there are seven more games to cement this history. A positive change going forward will help, but this is going to be a major lift in the near term. There is a lot of blame to go around that has been earned on this current trajectory, but I’ll need to look ahead. |
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Post by cuchillo on Feb 4, 2023 13:08:54 GMT -6
Guys like Garren when he plays and DZ are not wired to get back on defense. These guys don't play hard enough to earn a win against anyone. Makes me wonder what was instructed and demanded by the recently cashiered head coach. This "team" is a roster thrown together out of desperation after an absurd number of departures with no plan. Just hope. Hope is not a plan. |
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Post by barnzoboy on Feb 4, 2023 13:34:19 GMT -6
Losing by 15 against a 3-21 team might be the lowest point in the history of this program I agree; it’s not even close. Sadly, there are seven more games to cement this history. A positive change going forward will help, but this is going to be a major lift in the near term. There is a lot of blame to go around that has been earned on this current trajectory, but I’ll need to look ahead. Don't forget we get to lose one more in the first game of the Horizon tourney, so really there will be 8 more games to go, that's how we get to 2-30 for the year. |
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Post by kmell822 on Feb 4, 2023 13:35:41 GMT -6
Losing by 15 against a 3-21 team might be the lowest point in the history of this program Also agree, I would like to think there would be some improvement from the beginning of the year to the end of the year. Doesn't appear to be the case. Now it is tough with an acting coach, plus really can't change the system this far into the season. I hope the Nix can hold onto the incoming 3 ballers that have committed, as well as some of the current team - Meyer and Short in particular. Yes there are others, but it is a big mans game and gotta keep the height that you have. It is rock bottom no doubt. |
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Post by yayphoenixyay on Feb 4, 2023 14:16:14 GMT -6
I agree; it’s not even close. Sadly, there are seven more games to cement this history. A positive change going forward will help, but this is going to be a major lift in the near term. There is a lot of blame to go around that has been earned on this current trajectory, but I’ll need to look ahead. Don't forget we get to lose one more in the first game of the Horizon tourney, so really there will be 8 more games to go, that's how we get to 2-30 for the year. I thought the bottom two teams don’t even qualify? |
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